Shubee2 (DSK)
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« on: April 02, 2010, 13:32:24 pm » |
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For all of you that are mechanically inclined..... Penetrating Oils Compared
Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.
Penetrating oil ..... Average load
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................. 238 pounds
PB Blaster ..............214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds
The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.
Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.
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Diederick/DVK
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 14:44:26 pm » |
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gary, did they spray the mix on or used drops? just wondering how you could put these chemicals in a spray can.
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Diederick - Proud member of: DVK ~ Der Vollgas Kreuzers
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 14:58:36 pm » |
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I use one of these, you fill it with the chemicals of your choice, then pressurize it with an airhose.
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Diederick/DVK
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 16:09:12 pm » |
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of course i've got one of those too, silly me
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Diederick - Proud member of: DVK ~ Der Vollgas Kreuzers
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javabug
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 16:43:09 pm » |
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About the only thing i've found WD is good at is smelling nice. Going to try the ATF/Acetone mix for sure.
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Mike H.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 17:09:45 pm » |
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I have been using ATF and paint reducer for years, Works great. Before I start disassemblely of any project I go around and give all hardware a good soaking.
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A poor craftsman, Blame's it on poor tools. GAB-FAB shop # 775 246-3069
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61SNRF
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 02:16:57 am » |
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ATF and paint thinner (naptha) unfroze the rusted solid VW pliers in my tool kit, now they work fine. Lots of anti-oxidants in ATF. Is Kano Kroil some high dollar super product or what? I've never heard of it.
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BeetleBug
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 11:08:37 am » |
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I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix?
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Rennsurfer
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 18:01:04 pm » |
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I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix? X2. There are many other ways to loosen rusted bolts. Breathing toxic cancer causing fumes isn't on my list.
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Zach Gomulka
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 23:38:36 pm » |
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It's better than gear lube!!
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 23:44:00 pm » |
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Mark the thinner avaporate's Or just use staight ATF, Not much works better to brake down rust. If you have ever painted something with a rattle can, You probably inhaled more deadly stuff.
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Rennsurfer
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 23:46:46 pm » |
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Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do.
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2010, 18:57:39 pm » |
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Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 19:11:18 pm » |
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"You can only scramble an egg so many ways." ~Sarge
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2010, 01:43:15 am » |
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I also park at Nick's.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2010, 02:12:01 am » |
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"You can only scramble an egg so many ways." ~Sarge
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2010, 02:24:37 am » |
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I also park at Nick's.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2010, 13:38:09 pm » |
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"You can only scramble an egg so many ways." ~Sarge
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Dave Rosique
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2010, 16:59:11 pm » |
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I get it.
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Jason Foster
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2010, 18:09:31 pm » |
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2010, 19:34:47 pm » |
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2010, 08:16:55 am » |
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I also park at Nick's.
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Jason Foster
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2010, 22:01:16 pm » |
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STRENGTH THROUGH JOY...........
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2010, 23:19:11 pm » |
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2010, 23:23:00 pm » |
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HA! You REALLY don't me to explain that in a public forum, Randy. 'Tis quite simple, really. Au contraire; it went rather right.
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61SNRF
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2010, 02:07:01 am » |
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Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post.
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Shubee2 (DSK)
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2010, 03:46:17 am » |
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Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post.
LOL Bruce I would Like to hook some Jumper Cables to that Aluminum Foil
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2010, 05:48:53 am » |
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Here Kitty Kitty Kitty.....
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 08:03:04 am » |
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I also park at Nick's.
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Rennsurfer
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 08:28:28 am » |
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HAHA!!
That nails it, right on cue.
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"You can only scramble an egg so many ways." ~Sarge
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