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« on: April 02, 2010, 13:32:24 pm »

 For all of you that are mechanically inclined.....
Penetrating  Oils Compared

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually  tested penetrants for break
out torque on rusted nuts. Significant  results! They arranged a subjective
test of all the popular  penetrants with the control being the torque
required to remove the  nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating  oil ..... Average load

None ..................... 516  pounds

WD-40 .................. 238 pounds

PB Blaster  ..............214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ...... 127  pounds

Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone  mix... 53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50  - 50 automatic
transmission fluid and  acetone.

Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial  product in this
one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up  a batch and all now
use it with equally good results. Note also that  "Liquid Wrench" is about as
good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the  price.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 14:44:26 pm »

gary, did they spray the mix on or used drops?
just wondering how you could put these chemicals in a spray can.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 14:58:36 pm »

I use one of these, you fill it with the chemicals of your choice, then pressurize it with an airhose.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 16:09:12 pm »

of course i've got one of those too, silly me Embarrassed
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 16:43:09 pm »

About the only thing i've found WD is good at is smelling nice.  Going to try the ATF/Acetone mix for sure.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 17:09:45 pm »

I have been using ATF and paint reducer for years, Works great. Before I start disassemblely of any project I go around and give all hardware a good soaking.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 02:16:57 am »

ATF and paint thinner (naptha) unfroze the rusted solid VW pliers in my tool kit, now they work fine. Lots of anti-oxidants in ATF.
Is Kano Kroil some high dollar super product or what? I've never heard of it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 11:08:37 am »

I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix?
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 18:01:04 pm »

I HATE the smell of transmission fluid and nothing can ruin my day in the garage more than that smell. How will it smell mixed with acetone or paint thinner? And how is it to breath that mix?

X2. There are many other ways to loosen rusted bolts. Breathing toxic cancer causing fumes isn't on my list.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 23:38:36 pm »

It's better than gear lube!! Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 23:44:00 pm »

Mark the thinner avaporate's Or just use staight ATF, Not much works better to brake down rust. If you have ever painted something with a rattle can, You probably inhaled more deadly stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 23:46:46 pm »

Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2010, 18:57:39 pm »

Which is why I've been wearing masks to paint (can or gun) since I was a kid. Can't stop all of it... but I breathe less of that crap in than most do.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 19:11:18 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2010, 01:43:15 am »

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2010, 02:12:01 am »

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2010, 02:24:37 am »

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2010, 13:38:09 pm »

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2010, 16:59:11 pm »


I get it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2010, 18:09:31 pm »





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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2010, 19:34:47 pm »

 Grin
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2010, 08:16:55 am »

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2010, 22:01:16 pm »

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2010, 23:19:11 pm »

how did this go so wrong? Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2010, 23:23:00 pm »

how did this go so wrong? Huh Huh Huh

HA! You REALLY don't me to explain that in a public forum, Randy. 'Tis quite simple, really. Au contraire; it went rather right.
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2010, 02:07:01 am »

Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post.



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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2010, 03:46:17 am »

Do you use the penetrant to get the foil off your head? I don't understand the relation to the post.




LOL Bruce I would Like to hook some Jumper Cables to that Aluminum Foil   Grin
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2010, 05:48:53 am »

Here Kitty Kitty Kitty.....
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 08:03:04 am »

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 08:28:28 am »

HAHA!!

That nails it, right on cue.
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