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« on: November 02, 2010, 11:35:43 am » |
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Dears Sirs,
I know there is a few threads on this topic and I have tried to search a little, but can't seem to find it all. I need some proper restoration-info for a nice set of original 2-piece 5-spokes:
- What is the RAL code for the original grey color(s) that they were sold in?
(I beleive there was one or two colors...was it different on 1st gen vs 2nd gen?)
- The original center-caps....alu or plastic? What height/depth? Best source for repros?
- The orange stickers....who sells the best repros?
Thank you in forehand!
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guillaume
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 12:00:37 pm » |
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As far as I know, center caps are made of plastic.
American Racing center caps looks quite similar but not exactly.
Java JGE sell a good repro of the red/orange center caps stickers.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 17:14:10 pm » |
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These are original with original finish. Just cleaned with aluma-prep, Can get at welding and autobody paint stores. Hope this helps
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 17:28:56 pm » |
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I have one centre cap, and yes they're definitely plastic. Would you like me to get you some dimensions etc?
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TiDi
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 17:35:50 pm » |
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which is the best replica in your opinion?
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 18:25:42 pm » |
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SplitMan
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 22:17:58 pm » |
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danny: Thanks for posting the picture! Was this light grey the only original color, or was there an option with a darker grey?
kaferboy: Yes, please...it would be great if you could measure the height/depth of your cap. I see American Racing have good new ones in plastic with a bolt-circle that suits, but there are deffernet depths/heights.
Thanks a lot both of you.
Surely somebody must have restored and researched these and could advise on the RAL-code..
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speedwell
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 23:17:35 pm » |
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 suppose to be original pictures from back in the day |
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speedwell
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 23:38:45 pm » |
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original gtv with original 2nd generation 5 spokes  |
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 01:33:00 am » |
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Second gen wheels had inserts for lugs and where not counter sunk
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 02:23:40 am » |
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Mine were countersunk, Danny.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 02:37:59 am » |
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Might have been first gen ?
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 02:58:20 am » |
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Nope, they were the late of the late.
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I also park at Nick's.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 03:14:27 am » |
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Now that I am more confused than normal, Whats the difference between 1st gen and 2nd gen wheels ?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 03:18:44 am » |
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Only Rayburn knows the answer to that one, Danny. Do share with the group, John.
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 03:23:45 am » |
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1st generation wheels had a squared off spoke where it meets the back half, where it always cracks. 2nd generation wheels have that area radiused in a half moon as well as radiused on the back half tabs.. They actually had these wheels for 356, as well, with countersunk areas for the bolts on the back half, shorter studs, and low profile nylocks,( the version I owned ). They also had a bus version with beefier back halves.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 03:31:08 am » |
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Yep, that's how I remember them being. Except I didn't know about the Bus ones. Mine were obviously the early ones. Had to periodically blast the spokes to hide the cracks towards the backs. That and brake cleaner would make 'em just about invisible.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 03:31:42 am » |
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So when did they make all those upgrades ? Amazeing all that for a vw wheel
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 04:29:57 am » |
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I was told the " late version" was the last year of production of the wheel.
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I also park at Nick's.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2010, 12:20:53 pm » |
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I got my cap stickers from Turtle001. He is on the Lounge.
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Rick Meredith
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 17:38:00 pm » |
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1st generation wheels had a squared off spoke where it meets the back half, where it always cracks. 2nd generation wheels have that area radiused in a half moon as well as radiused on the back half tabs.. They actually had these wheels for 356, as well, with countersunk areas for the bolts on the back half, shorter studs, and low profile nylocks,( the version I owned ). They also had a bus version with beefier back halves.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 21:34:04 pm » |
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here're the 1st generation
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speedwell
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 21:36:08 pm » |
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2nd generation |
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speedwell
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 22:12:02 pm » |
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check this topic , some interesting stuff to know and there's some answer for some of you fabs |
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 23:28:13 pm » |
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Thank you Mr. Librarian!
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Jim M
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2010, 04:11:08 am » |
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Some pictures of original 5 spoke caps, generic available caps and some old aluminum caps
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2010, 09:06:04 am » |
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I got my caps at ISP WEST
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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2010, 09:46:24 am » |
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Does anybody know the offset of these wheels?  |
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2010, 12:28:02 pm » |
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were they ever offered in Gold colour as used in Tgfab's 67? what gold is that?
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2010, 16:13:24 pm » |
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were they ever offered in Gold colour as used in Tgfab's 67? what gold is that?
no gold color in the motoring guide only cast mag and another grey |
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