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Andy Sykes
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« on: November 11, 2010, 12:08:59 pm »

Is it possible to use a pull type clutch on a T1, im fitting a G50 box over the winter and I am looking at my options for flywheels and clutches so it would make sense if a could use a 911 plate and disc. I mainly concerned about the crank thrust bearing load using a pull type any body got any ideas

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 09:47:03 am »

you can convert it to a push clutch, by using a hydraulic thrust bearing. then you can use a 'normal' clutch cover. Works a treat on Russ Fellows car.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 11:36:29 am »

Thanks for the reply martin do you know what he did for a flywheel?

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 12:31:13 pm »

Thanks for the reply marin do you know what he did for a flywheel?

cheers andy

He had one made, as he was going from a flanged crank to the G50 box. I'll ask if he's still got the drawings


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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 12:42:39 pm »

ok cheers Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 18:27:43 pm »

hi martin did you have any luck with the drawing?

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 19:41:09 pm »

We had some type1 and type4 engines on the circuit track with a modified flywheel for porsche clutch . worked good , but a lot of labour on the flywheel

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 19:50:18 pm »

We had some type1 and type4 engines on the circuit track with a modified flywheel for porsche clutch . worked good , but a lot of labour on the flywheel

Udo

cheers udo thanks that answers the pull type clutch on a t1 do you have any details on the fly wheels im looking for a drawing or somebody who can produce one if they dont want to release the drawing

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 20:50:24 pm »

Just spoken to Russ and he dosent have a drawing. But it's not that hard to work out.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 21:04:47 pm »

ok thanks for asking Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 06:30:58 am »

What clutch do you have ? On a 228 porsche clutch you have to weld the Type1 flywheel on outside diameter

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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 17:51:04 pm »

What clutch do you have ? On a 228 porsche clutch you have to weld the Type1 flywheel on outside diameter

Udo

hi have got a clutch for this yet so im open to options

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2010, 19:50:45 pm »

I have a TIV billet flywheel for a 911 225mm clutch.
It is just a flat flywheel...what the heck, I have some pictures.
It is made out of SIS 2541 which is pretty much a Swedish 300M.
Not for sale but maybe the pictures help?





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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2010, 19:53:34 pm »

thanks for the pics is that for a t4?

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2010, 21:00:10 pm »

Yes , this is how it looks like when you have a porsche clutch. I have one of this for sale but it is for a type 4 engine. I also have a welded type1 that needs to be modified
A 228 mm is very big , may be someone knows a smaller one ?

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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2010, 21:22:05 pm »

What clutch do you have ? On a 228 porsche clutch you have to weld the Type1 flywheel on outside diameter

Udo
Not neccesarily. I just remade a OEM type 1 flywheel for 228mm by just machining, no welding done. It now fits my G50 so the 1200 motor can get in  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2010, 22:40:54 pm »

we could have a breakthrough KEP are getting me a price on a custom flywheel Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2010, 23:27:51 pm »

good news back from KEP

Ok that number is for a late G50 1990-1994 open diff. You should have a bushing in your starter pocket to support the end of the starter. Please verify this.
The flywheel for that is a lot more expensive (i it would be  Roll Eyes) and the ring gear is bolted to the flywheel. The cost for that flywheel is 542.00 USD the cost for the clutch kit is 902.00 USD 
Shipping around 155.00 USD and then the import charges  Cry

so looks like its now possible thanks a few emails Grin  just got to sell my right arm now

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 12:57:01 pm »

Why don't you use a porsche clutch that has the ring gear on the pressure plate ?

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 20:53:31 pm »

Why don't you use a porsche clutch that has the ring gear on the pressure plate ?

Udo

hi is that not the same thing ? or am i missing something

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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 12:36:19 pm »

May be it is the same . The price for a porsche clutch is nearly the same if you have a steel clutch (Aluminium 1200 euros ) .
I was suprised about the bolt on gear ring only ..

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