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vintagewagenwerks
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angle flow heads
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November 25, 2010, 23:28:59 pm »
about this question maybe everyone is loughing about .I know the angle flow are pure dragracing heads ,but heres my question ,can this heads used for a street car ,the maintance of these question is the cooling of these heads ,about my experiences it is impossible ,does someone have any experience about more of the thermal lifts and cooling possibilities about these heads .
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Steve D.
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November 26, 2010, 00:09:46 am »
Not impossible at all- I've been running a set of A/F heads on my 2789 (86 x 101.6) in different incarnations over the last 3 years or so. All the normal tin, 36hp style chinese shroud without oil cooler with a doghouse fan, and a mesa type oil cooler/fan under the car, and it seems to be fine. 91 octane California gas and 217hp/215tq to the rear wheels through the muffler.
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 04:55:31 am »
[ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] don't know what ROCK YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER but there are probably more STREET miles logged on the heads you call pure drag than you can imagine. you just haven't taken notice. and BTW that's with out any at all OVER HEATING issues. you would have to be a complete NUM SCULL to do this.sorry for the sarcasm but were ever your getting your FALSE FEED BACK on OUR AMERICAN MADE HEADS THERE Wrong!!!!.
UD .
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vintagewagenwerks
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 06:32:22 am »
Ok that is an answer,all people here in germany told me this heads were only for dragrace and overheat on the street because of the thin cooling house they have 4 fins a strreet head woul be 8 fins that is the rock i was living under your answer shows me the people her hsve no idea about.
Thank you very much for this information of your experience you have with these heads.I also could not believe that ,so i only want to have some ideas further.
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Tobi/DFL
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 10:04:54 am »
Hi!
I guess the definition of "street" is different.
Here in germany most people think of long high speed autobahn runs when they are talking about street driving. I donīt know the difference between com eliminators and A/F heads regarding the cooling fins, but you can in fact drive comp ellis "on the street" but I would be careful if I wanted to drive on the autobahn for long distances at high speed.
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 12:52:23 pm »
That is the difference like tobi sayed
Most people only want to cruise on the street . For me a street engine is for driving on the autobahn fast for a longer time, like 5000 rpm's or more
May be you can do this with the heads , we had some that raced CE heads on the circuit track...
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vintagewagenwerks
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November 26, 2010, 13:20:51 pm »
yes almost you can drive fast in germany everywhere ,the difference you describe is right ,i am a person that never would the engine turn to the max for a long time.My engine can run over 7000rpm ,the real power of the engine displays about over 4500 rpm My cruising rpm is mostly by 3500 -4000 at longer times never been over there for a long time ,the fear that the engine blows is to big and all the money iīve spend to it.
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 17:12:34 pm »
UD i LOVE your muffler set up.
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ugly duckling
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 17:33:57 pm »
Hi.dident realize you were such a newbi or I woundnt have been so negatory towards you.I just figured everybody knows about these heads since they have only been on the maket for the past 29 yrs.my bad I apoligize. Oh and one major point if you ever visit here in the states try some of our local hiways out of town going to some of our MANY STATES stretching for THOUSANDS!! OF MILES and desert TEMPS reaching 120 deg. There a kick in the ASS. A deffenet true test for a true.REAL STREET INDERANCE ACVW STREET MACHINE . This is OUR autobaun.posted speed limet signs WHAT ARE THOSE. Have a good one. UD,
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 26, 2010, 23:40:16 pm »
UD,
Just can't put into proper words how ultimately COOL that car was (is?) ... needs to be back on the streets sweeping up all the none-believers!
So very much wish I could've seen it run in person.
Makes me want to get my old '67 project RUNNING! Just need to "wash it" with a brillo pad. But! It'll have to be 4 INCH EQUIPPED!!! Daily driver style ...
... how's that other case coming along??? LOL! ... no pressure! LOL (again)!
Seriously folks, this man defined Street Sleeper/Sweeper; do what he does and you could be COOL too.
Let's see some pics of the Remingtons BOILING!
If you have doubts of the cooling efficiency of the heads, I have heard great benefits of combustion chamber and piston thermal barrier coatings. Sorry I can't quite yet give personal experience on them ...
P.S. My apologies for the post hi-jack!
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ugly duckling
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November 27, 2010, 05:40:52 am »
Hi tom. talk to ya soon . UD .
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vintagewagenwerks
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 27, 2010, 12:53:54 pm »
ok.....this heads were very amazing what you can do with them
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Can you tell us some features of your engine ,bore,stroke ,cylinders,case etc?
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November 27, 2010, 14:35:28 pm »
Most likely best you look here first ... then ask more questions!
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,5367.0.html
UD ... Thanks! Absolutely Awesome ... love that photo!
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November 28, 2010, 01:34:30 am »
Quote from: vintagewagenwerks on November 27, 2010, 12:53:54 pm
ok.....this heads were very amazing what you can do with them
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Can you tell us some features of your engine ,bore,stroke ,cylinders,case etc?
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Fiatdude
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 28, 2010, 05:07:32 am »
Damn -- for a second there I thought I was gonna have to throw all this away LOL
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 28, 2010, 14:54:28 pm »
Thatś an awsome sleeper
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November 28, 2010, 16:55:51 pm »
yes looks awsome
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ugly duckling
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November 28, 2010, 20:49:01 pm »
looking good there Harold.
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 30, 2010, 03:07:30 am »
Quote from: ugly duckling on November 27, 2010, 05:40:52 am
Hi tom. talk to ya soon . UD .
The Pictures you see are from the Real Street Competition in Las Vegas. Buy the way all the competitors drove there Cars to Las Vegas from the O.C. California. Jeff won the Prize because he finished
the 50 Mile drive in 100 deg. weather and layed down the fastest time. Vegas is not close to Orange County I think about 300 Miles and it got Hot!!
His Car had a Type 1 Gear box. Nice Burn-Out and then Drove Home.
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Re: angle flow heads
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November 30, 2010, 07:08:52 am »
That was such a great competition Mike... very cool to see the cars drive 5 hrs and then race.
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ugly duckling
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 01, 2010, 20:38:43 pm »
Hey mike. Let's plan on doing that again some time in the near future before we all kick it.all I need to do is get finished with some projects then I can go play again.would need to pull the TUMMBLE WEEDS off my car build a new BIG BORE SECRET WEAPON AND I'M GOOD TO GO. GOOD TIIMES. ,UD,
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 01, 2010, 23:37:03 pm »
Not for street, but here is what I did with my AF heads.
These pics were about 1996 I think.
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58vw
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December 02, 2010, 03:09:37 am »
nice pics dangerous...looks nasty
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mr horsepower
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December 02, 2010, 19:03:56 pm »
Wauw i alwas love sc vw s ,
did that set up run good on that engine?
it sure looks beasty to me.
gr henri
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December 02, 2010, 20:57:07 pm »
Quote from: mr horsepower on December 02, 2010, 19:03:56 pm
Wauw i alwas love sc vw s ,
did that set up run good on that engine?
it sure looks beasty to me.
gr henri
It ran awesome,
but I never had the kahonas to give it 'all' it had.
went 9.7@147 in 1870lb car,(1.67 sixty!)
eventually crashed it.
42psi boost, 10:1 comp, and 2965cc.
Blowers are currently on a Ghia here in Australia.
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 03, 2010, 17:01:26 pm »
Quote from: ugly duckling on December 01, 2010, 20:38:43 pm
Hey mike. Let's plan on doing that again some time in the near future before we all kick it.all I need to do is get finished with some projects then I can go play again.would need to pull the TUMMBLE WEEDS off my car build a new BIG BORE SECRET WEAPON AND I'M GOOD TO GO. GOOD TIIMES. ,UD,
Jeff drop me an email when you can , got an idea for this
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ugly duckling
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 06, 2010, 06:00:04 am »
GET N R DONE. i wont say who,s they are. but there GET N DONE. and on a sunday even. and you thought i was sleep,n on the job. 1 of many sets that need to get finished
. BTW these are going to be 52x38 rnd port PUMP GAS street heads . AF OF COARSE. . UD .
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December 06, 2010, 22:40:50 pm »
getting back in the groove doing these heads. it feels good. been doing more 4IN cases lately. this work was done this morning 12/6/10. bore and install 2.070 /500 tall INT seats. will have to top the int seat with the bore head approximately .125 to the center of the chamber floor. this was the only seat my supplyer had to offer so i have to do some EXTRA leg work to make it work with the .375 tall center section. everything went very smoothly for a MONDAY!.you know you did a good job when you can put a brand new valve in with the guide and seat with NO VALVE JOB YET and see absolutely NO DAY LIGHT. TWO DECENT SWINGS with the 5lb sledge on my yea pretty hamerd driver .010 press with absolutely NO MATERIAL TRAPED UNDER SEAT!!. tomorrow ex side. . [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] UD.
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 07, 2010, 01:29:57 am »
and yes the head is HEATED UP FIRST!! before seat install. i used 5w20 Mobil 1 for my lube. almost doesent feel like .010 press could it be because its not taking any extra material (CHAFING) on its way down to the SEAT FLOOR.
UD.
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Re: angle flow heads
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December 07, 2010, 01:43:32 am »
Better clean that up before mom gets home, she's gonna be pissed!!
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