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GetBackOnTrack
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January 12, 2011, 23:35:29 pm »
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January 14, 2011, 19:57:52 pm »
Got the adaptor plates welded on along with wome extra material around the big end.. Also got them shaped and ported and spot faced on the surface that seals against the carburetor/head.
15 ours of work in these manifolds.
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January 14, 2011, 19:59:10 pm »
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January 14, 2011, 20:24:40 pm »
Great project. I'm following this thread closely, as I'm working on fabing a set of motorcycle throttle bodies to a type-4 engine. I'm new to VWs and maching aluminum. If you don't mind me asking, what tools did you use to fab the adapters? they look like works of art. what will it take for a novice, working out of his home garage, to be able to fabricate something like that? Thanks.
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January 14, 2011, 20:32:48 pm »
I bought the adaptors along with the terminator carbs. But you need a mill to fab a set, or you can send me some worksheeds and I will make you a set.
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January 17, 2011, 01:25:45 am »
Got the time to make 8 shims with skirts for the valvespring to rest in. Cut off 0.5mm of the Gene berg ratainers aswell. This gives me 1,8 mm before coilbind at full lift 15,7mm. Hope this will last and not bread the springs.
BTW, have made an extra set of the shims with skirts if anybody needs.. They measure 0.9 mm thikness, 42mm OD, 17,1 ID, and they have a 3mm tall skirt to keep the spring in place at high revs..
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January 17, 2011, 17:48:50 pm »
Made myself some parts for my linkage today..
Also got the shortblock finnished.
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January 18, 2011, 17:44:34 pm »
Hardcore work. What cooling system are you building Jakob ? T1? , DTM ?
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January 18, 2011, 18:43:19 pm »
Quote from: GetBackOnTrack on January 17, 2011, 01:25:45 am
Got the time to make 8 shims with skirts for the valvespring to rest in. Cut off 0.5mm of the Gene berg ratainers aswell. This gives me 1,8 mm before coilbind at full lift 15,7mm. Hope this will last and not bread the springs.
BTW, have made an extra set of the shims with skirts if anybody needs.. They measure 0.9 mm thikness, 42mm OD, 17,1 ID, and they have a 3mm tall skirt to keep the spring in place at high revs..
Regards, jakob
Why don't you cut down the seat of the springs ? I do this everytime i use Type1 springs. so you have space for more travel and the springs fit into the head
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January 18, 2011, 18:54:49 pm »
I think there is only about a couple of mm from the spring seat to the induction channel, God forbit that I would cut into the channel, so decided to remove a bit of the retainer instead.
Got a little ekstra material welded on above the induction channels and faced them afterwards in the milll..
Im using an old style fanhousing with the generator precise in the middle of the engine..
Regards, Jakob
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January 18, 2011, 22:36:52 pm »
I like the ridge leading towards the valve guide! Not often you see that done to 4-bolt type 4 heads.
Nice job overall!
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Re: 2285 type 4 screamer motor...
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January 19, 2011, 19:49:24 pm »
Quote from: GetBackOnTrack on January 18, 2011, 18:54:49 pm
I think there is only about a couple of mm from the spring seat to the induction channel, God forbit that I would cut into the channel, so decided to remove a bit of the retainer instead.
Got a little ekstra material welded on above the induction channels and faced them afterwards in the milll..
Im using an old style fanhousing with the generator precise in the middle of the engine..
Regards, Jakob
Type 1 springs are smaller and you can cut them down 2 mm with no breaking through
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January 19, 2011, 22:02:38 pm »
Thanks Udo.. Il keep that in mind..
A picture of the linkage im producing.
Regards..
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January 21, 2011, 10:40:38 am »
Linkage under construction.
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January 21, 2011, 12:21:06 pm »
Very detailed work indeed. Let us know with the outcome!!
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January 21, 2011, 13:21:29 pm »
nice work.
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January 21, 2011, 15:57:39 pm »
Thanks.. Ill keep the thread going until the engine hits the dyno...
A little tinware fabrication going on.
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Re: 2285 type 4 screamer motor...
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January 21, 2011, 16:58:18 pm »
Jakob, can you post the pictures in 800 x 600 resolution ? Youre work is far to beautiful to post them like this !!!
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January 21, 2011, 21:15:35 pm »
Awesome work g bot
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January 27, 2011, 01:39:09 am »
Got my last parts for my engine today.. 105 mm JE pistons, pauter 1.48 roller rockers.
Checked the deckheight and it was a bit too tight, 0.5 mm, so I cut off 0.5 mm of the pistons to accomplish 1 mm deck. Also had to cut 6 mm deep valvepockets int the pistons.
Another couple of days of work and im ready to put it all together
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January 27, 2011, 01:41:57 am »
Also finnished my home made linkage..
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January 27, 2011, 08:45:36 am »
sweet.. looks like you will need my race gearbox for the summer..
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January 30, 2011, 17:05:57 pm »
Jakob, you have PM.
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January 30, 2011, 22:00:24 pm »
engine assembled and put in my car.. Just need the header now and a few other things, and im ready for start up
PM back to you Harry.
Regards, Jakob
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January 30, 2011, 23:01:34 pm »
Jakob, wich fan are you going to be using...T1 ?? I have a plan for a modified T3 fanring to T1 hub in my head. Do you breathe the case on #1 and #3 to "equilize" the breathing in the case #2 and #4 "chambers" ??
Regards, Harry
PS, i like the old style Fanshroud.
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January 31, 2011, 12:19:37 pm »
Im using a welded and ballanced type 1 fan.
The only breathing on the motor I have is the 1" at the flywheel end and a 3/8" at the crank pulley end.. Have done it that way on a few motors, seems to work fine.
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February 08, 2011, 17:53:02 pm »
Hi Jakob, any news ? Are going dry-sump system ?
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February 10, 2011, 09:33:38 am »
Jakob, great work.
I'm following this thread with much interest.
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February 10, 2011, 11:13:34 am »
Smart stuff, whats the centre mount fan shroud like cooling wise?
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February 16, 2011, 01:10:49 am »
Hey guys..
Project is standing still at the moment.. waiting for a header, decided to buy one instead of building it myself..
Im going drysump on the engine yes..
The center fan shroud isnt the best cooling wise, but the car is not build for left lane cruising anyway... I use the car on the strip and for breaking up a bit of detroit iron every now and then
The center fan shroud is compact and gives a lot of room on each side of the carburetors.
Hoping to have my header soon so I can crank that thing and hear what she has to say to me
By the way, I need some distributor wires with some sort of bend.. I cant fit my msd wires in cause of the huge weldings around the manifolds.. Anybody know if msd or somebody else sells wires with a bend?
Regards, Jakob
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