Diederick's '67

[javabug]

my secret has been exposed 
haha, i MIGHT do this. not sure yet.

but i can tell you i won't lose the trim 

edit:
this is as far as my paint skills went (hope you like it mike  )

Hey some punkass stole my turn singnals and horn grilles!   

I would really recommend if you're set on removing the grilles, put round indicators in their place. 

[Zach Gomulka]

at all?

any idea what the CR will be with a 1300 s/p with 85.5 pistons?

So many variables, its best to check it when you re assemble the motor. If anything, I would lower the deck (stock is around .070") to .040". That will increase CR slightly and help resist detonation at the same time.

[Diederick/DVK]

I'm not too sure about the fenders anymore.
I found a nice set of og VW fenders, but that wanker is not selling at the price i'm asking 

Dunno, perhaps i shouldn't... 

[Jordy/DVK]

I found a nice set of og VW fenders, but that wanker is not selling at the price i'm asking 

 What's that wankers number
 Or is it the set of blue fenders from MP...

why not just weld shut the holes of the fenders you already have?

[Diederick/DVK]

jordy, username dtt on keversite.nl
i don't want to weld these fenders up cos they're really nice and it was a pain in the bottom to find them...

howeverrr, after a 5 hour journey i can say that i have successfully acquired my NOS-ish 67 door!
i went to pick it up by train, and the way back was kind of funny! talk about turning heads 

it's not the people on the train that wonder, it's when you get off and you come walking out with a car door on your shoulder that is f*cking hilarious!!
i literally had to face the ground while walking or i'd burst into laughing cos of the people looking at me in awe 

there we go, 2 little dents but that should be a problem. thanks wesley!

[Diederick/DVK]

the photos have landed!
works is in progress, but this gives an idea (at least it did for me) 

[Jordy/DVK]

i went to pick it up by train, and the way back was kind of funny! talk about turning heads 
it's when you get off and you come walking out with a car door on your shoulder that is f*cking hilarious!!
i literally had to face the ground while walking or i'd burst into laughing cos of the people looking at me in awe 

 I had the same with picking up my bumper and tyres... lol...
 People really stare at you as if you're a lunatic... soooo funny....
 
 I can imagine people will stare even more if you're dragging a door around...

 Good to see he's already started working on your car. Hope it's finished in time...
 

[Sander/DVK]

Wow, thats a lot of work to do. I didn't know it was a total respray.

Are you sure that your car is in Budel about 4/5 weeks now?

[Diederick/DVK]

Yup, the pick-up date is set on the Saturday the 2th on June 

I'm hoping we can make it, otherwise it will be a tight schedule.
Cos i'm away the weekend after, so either that 2th or a few days later during the week.

I'm crossing my fingers 
But I definitely have good faith in the final result 

[Diederick/DVK]

any idea what the CR will be with a 1300 s/p with 85.5 pistons?

we installed the pistons and barrels today, measured the deckheight and we got to 1.85mm (though we need a spacer for 3&4 cos they are .3mm off...)

assuming a stock combustion chamber is 54cc (isn't it), this brings me to a compression ratio of 7.13:1
does this make any sense?

and i found out today that my 1300 s/p heads need to be opened up for 1600 cylinders 
even more work now...

[Zach Gomulka]

any idea what the CR will be with a 1300 s/p with 85.5 pistons?

we installed the pistons and barrels today, measured the deckheight and we got to 1.85mm (though we need a spacer for 3&4 cos they are .3mm off...)

assuming a stock combustion chamber is 54cc (isn't it), this brings me to a compression ratio of 7.13:1
does this make any sense?

and i found out today that my 1300 s/p heads need to be opened up for 1600 cylinders 
even more work now...

I would look for a set of 15/1600 single port heads in good condition... they also have larger valves.
Stock heads have about 52cc's in the chambers, but I wouldnt guess on how large your chambers are due to production variances and you never know if they may have been machined in the past.
You can have the tops of the cylinders machined down for 1mm (.040") deck height for best performance.
52cc's and 1mm deck height would give you 7.9:1.

[Diederick/DVK]

zach, but wouldn't i need to cut my pushrods then? or can i shim the rockers?

and i am looking around for other heads too  '
i hope i will find some

[Zach Gomulka]

zach, but wouldn't i need to cut my pushrods then? or can i shim the rockers?

and i am looking around for other heads too  '
i hope i will find some

The rockers may be shimmed.

[Diederick/DVK]

Ok, let me figure this out. I would need a .5mm shim for one side and a .8mm shim for the other side?
It all depends on how much time i have left and if i can find a place to machine them... 

A pic of my brother and me yesterday shot by JeePee, just before calling it a wrap:

[Diederick/DVK]

i guess this is the long awaited scoop then 

well, as i went on holidays after my last post in this thread today was the day to get to business again.

i picked up my 1500 sp heads this morning at Sander's place. he did a nice porting job on them of which should certainly be able to reap the benefits off:


after cleaning the heads thoroughly i fitted some spacers under 2 cylinders to get to an even deckheight of 1.85mm, i would've incurred a lot more costs if i were to go for a higher CR and i reckon it's not worth it at the moment, certainly not since it started out as a budget upgrade 

i then installed most of the engine tin that has been powdercoated for a nice finish. i still have to get the fanhousing to fit nicely though. it's an aftermarket piece and it's about 5mm too tall where it rests on the engine case (behind the generator). perhaps i should just vile it off or use a dremel? i know i should trial fitted it, but it's all a bit of a last minute job.

this what it looks right now - don't mind the fingerprints  :


lastly i send out my flywheel to get it lightened.

as you can see we have a few more things to do next weekend before we can test it. the only bummer is that i found my thunderbird header cracked, so the leak wasn't in the heater boxes after all 

[Diederick/DVK]

tightening the last few bolts of that day:

[Eddie DVK]

Looks good Diederick,
Kinda always liked the Kadrons.

[Diederick/DVK]

Alright, here's the latest scoop...

A B*TCH IS BORN 

Yes, it does feel good hearing your engine come to life after a few weeks of work 

I picked up my flywheel today (7 kilograms) and so we started building up the engine from "longblock" to "turnkey", the final result:


At first the engine wouldn't fire as my fuel pump didn't deliver any fuel to the carbs, but after we connected an electronic fuel pump it did come to life 

Here are the two videos we shot when we cranked up the engine:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/GVdHCtFseNM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/GVdHCtFseNM</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DewxH7GbOXQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/DewxH7GbOXQ</a>

Yes i was very excited and happy in the first video, and honestly the engine just sounded scary at first. It's sooo loud, but that doesn't really show in the video that we took though... In the second video you can see us feeling the leaks in the header 

So, one successful day then. With two questions of mine;
- there is no thread in the fanhouse, so where should i mount my coil then?
- and i was wondering about the fuel pump, but i'll have to find that out myself 

The downside is, i'm broke literally spend all my money on the engine.
The good, it seems to work fine.

CHEERS!!!

[javabug]

Sounds good!  Get those exhaust leaks fixed, tune up the Kads, and you will LOVE it.

[Diederick/DVK]

Yesterday's progress on the motor:


We fitted a 1 1/2" merged header and dual QPs from Bugpack, the only downside is that the j-pipe runs underneath the pushrod tubes and so that part of the engine tin doesn't fit anymore...
Aren't these actually 2 problems? The exhaust may heat up the cylinders AND the engine tin may provide less cooling??
What do you think? 

Another little vid of the engine. The sound is a lot more decent now that the new exhaust has been fitted. But i have no clue whether the timing and carbs are still tuned up correctly.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/FjWNDz4ncIw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/FjWNDz4ncIw</a>

Tonight I will hear whether my car gets painted tomorrow and then i can collect it, build it up on Thursday and be ready for Budel this weekend.
Such a close call 

[yvre]

Tonight I will hear whether my car gets painted tomorrow and then i can collect it, build it up on Thursday and be ready for Budel this weekend.

Yeah right...

[Diederick/DVK]

The car will receive paint tomorrow...
It's gonna be an exciting race to get it sorted in time.

N.b. Yvre, if you look at the photos on page 1 you see it's not a body-off or anything so I reckon it's not a mission impossibile 

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

Good Luck Getting in Done On Time Diederick Should Look Great when you get it all back together!!

[Diederick/DVK]

Thanks Shubee!
I can't wait to get behind the wheel and drive home tomorrow evening (hopefully)

I've got everything sorted for tomorrow, now let's hope that knob sprays on the paint first thing 

P.s. shubee, do you know the answer to my query?
We fitted a 1 1/2" merged header and dual QPs from Bugpack, the only downside is that the j-pipe runs underneath the pushrod tubes and so that part of the engine tin doesn't fit anymore...
Aren't these actually 2 problems? The exhaust may heat up the cylinders AND the engine tin may provide less cooling??
What do you think?

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

No thats not a Problem as long as you have the deflectors above the push rod tubes that snap in to the lower head studs its not a Problem almost all merge exhaust systems  are the same way yours is the tin under the push rod tubes is more of a protector from something getting thrown up and bending  a push rod tube there are also two types of Deflectors the small early type  kind of square looking  and the late type which they also call cool tin it wraps around the bottom of the cly's they flow more of an evan flow of air then the early type 

[Diederick/DVK]

The second type you refer to are the ones meant for type 3 engines, right?
I do intend to use those on my next engine 

Cheers for answering Shubee!

I hope that tomorrow I can show you a rear end pic of my '67 w/ filled apron, t-bars, and dual QPs on a merged header 

Last question; i'm still in doubt about getting a pair of stand-offs.
You think I need them?  I mean it's a s/p engine case with the smaller oil galleys, no doghouse oil cooler, and no vert decklid...

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

I think Stand offs are more for looks  then anything else the air gets in but cant get out I think it works better by making a bracket to bring the bottom of the deck lid out about 2 to 3 inches on your year you can just get  two longer 6 mm bolts and make two tubing spacers to go behind the stock bracket  it runs cooler and you dont have to worry about the rain getting in and the spring still holds the deck lid up

[yvre]

N.b. Yvre, if you look at the photos on page 1 you see it's not a body-off or anything so I reckon it's not a mission impossibile 

Oops, I had forgotten about that... Good luck then...
As for the stand offs, I think they look ugly. If you don't have overheating problems, leave the back-end alone, it looks much cleaner (IMHO)...

[Diederick/DVK]

i totally forgot to mention that my car hadn't received paint yet when we went to pick it up 
i was so disappointed!

but i found peace listening to my fav music 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/o4fQsZVVj-E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/o4fQsZVVj-E</a>

and as i have exams after the weekend, it means that i'll have to build it up the week before EBI and burn rubber... cos i wanna drrrrriiiiivvvvee so badly 

so, i will be hitching a ride in my brother's restolooker to go to Budel tomorrow 

[JeePee/DVK]

but i found peace listening to my fav music 

Do you call that music?
Give me a 2180 with 48 IDA's.
That's my fav.music.