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65bug
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« on: June 16, 2011, 04:55:38 am »

Hey guys,
          Alright, if I decide to go with T-bars for my car, I have a few questions:
1. Steel or Aluminumununmn? Grin
2. Bugpak? Empi? Any other brands?
3. Round bars or hex?
        I saw a set of Bugpack aluminum ones. They looked really nice! I like the polished aluminum ones. But I know if you can get steel ones, they will be more protection in a impact. Any special ones out there?
       IF YOU GOT PICS PLEASE POST EM!!! I may hang up[ my stock 65 bumpers for these, as my original rear one got creamed with I got hit. Just wondering if I would dig the change. And for all you weight weenies out there, how much pounds would I be saving?
      Thanks Wink [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]
         
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 05:28:21 am »



Aluminum, hex, full polish. These are almost as old as dirt. Not sure who made them,...alum vs. steel in a fender bender,..toss up on the damage. Think I would take the aluminum and save the apron/bumper mounts as much as possible. Steel will rust, alum will not.

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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 05:35:00 am »

Beautiful car there! Nice job. They look great on that car! Are your quiet packs S&S? They look just like mine. And it looks like the drivers side is tucked in further then the passenger side??? Just like mine!
       The hex shape on your T-Bars looks cool too. I did not think I would like it. But it looks good. Got any front shots?
 
 Thanks again Wink
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 05:37:35 am »

Fast fab has ALL FOUR for 70.00! Just not polished............
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 05:40:55 am »

yup old skool S&S. They actually fit pretty evenly on the drivers and pass side. It may be the angle of the dangle on the photo that makes for an optical conclusion. I will see about more pics.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 05:46:34 am »

If it matters to you the original Cal Look T-bars were made by Greg Aronson of FAT Perf. fame. He used hexagonal aluminum rod stock for the first ones and switched to round stock later on as a production item. Either of them tend to be delicate in nature and protection is really not their strong suit.

If you plan on running into things, I'd keep your stock bumpers.  Otherwise, think out side the box and surprise us with your imagination  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 05:50:56 am »

kingsburgphil,
     It's not ME I am worried about! I just got rear ended in my car by a guy. I was sitting at a red light and he plowed into the back of me. I suppose I am a little paranoid now........................... Cheesy
     Thanks for the T Bar history..................... Wink
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 05:52:21 am »

Picture nabbed from Ed Craig at the Classic..thanks Ed.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 06:04:05 am »

Ahh! Thanks! Great looking Cal-Looker. The fronts look clean for sure. I will make a decision and act on it. Maybe we can get some more photos going on here.
 
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 06:50:07 am »

        Lets face the truth , T-bars , stock bumpers , if youre planning on  5mph.or faster protection, youre plan is allready a bad one, the idea is about no tickets right? If you go with T-bars, go aluminum , (no rust)  just make sure the welds are good , I had to tow a friend home from Carlsbad drags to Anaheim with F.A.T. T-bars ,rope and T-bars on I-5 frwy. one CHP. warning was the closest thing to a problem we had , but be clear ,I wouldnt recommend it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 06:59:17 am »

       That oval is bitchin, and with the wheels ,its PORN
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 14:00:56 pm »

My first Cal Looker that I built in '79 had really nice aluminum t-bars that I had to constantly polish 'cause they were raw. But they looked great. My current car has a set of steel ones (thanks to Jason Foster) that I painted  Zenith Blue to match the body color.

In this picture, Hector's maroon '67 has black ones... Rick's yellow '67 has polished ones, and my blue '67 has the color coded ones.


To each their own. As far as your weight question... I don't know 'cause I've never weighed my bumpers and brackets while they're off the car. I'm guessing total weight loss would be around 20-40lbs. More, if you have German bumpers and the rear inner stiffener.
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 14:06:25 pm »

i have some one with me to Budel and EBI
2 set Alu std
and  2set Powercoat black also Alu Wink


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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 14:18:42 pm »


i have some one with me to Budel and EBI
Alu std
and Powercoat black


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My personal favorite! Wink 

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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 16:11:11 pm »

Gotta be aluminium. It's all about weight!

If you're worried about what happens in a crash, get a Volvo Tongue Wink
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 16:24:02 pm »


i have some one with me to Budel and EBI
Alu std
and Powercoat black


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My personal favorite! Wink 



im torn, thats one of my fav shots of ur bucket sarge
except its  neck n neck with my other fav the Feb 03' HVW's cover

LOL
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 16:29:58 pm »

If you're worried about what happens in a crash, get a Volvo Tongue Wink

hahahha.  Thats shit is funny
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 16:54:21 pm »


im torn, thats one of my fav shots of ur bucket sarge
except its  neck n neck with my other fav the Feb 03' HVW's cover


Hahahaha... your free case of beer is on the way!  With T-bars, if your
in an accident, you'll still be able to check the oil and access your red cups...
something to consider. Wink
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 17:00:12 pm »

hahahahaha  sarge, but if u get rear ended? ur front bumper can be the red cup  holder/table whilst u drink and wait?


oh wait.. that only happens here, where u can get stuck  because the tow truck broke  on its way HAHAHAHA
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 17:03:37 pm »

here's mine , TOPLINE from the 80's , black /alu /round
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011, 17:38:43 pm »

On my first bug (1971 Super) I had cheap steel T-bars that I painted the color of the car.  Not long after I finished the car I rear ended a woman in a Honda that stopped in the middle of a turn.  I was probably going 5 miles per hour when I hit her bumper.  I hit the Honda with one T-Bar (Drivers side front)  as I hit her car on an angle. The T-bar that hit the bumper just folded right over and I think it bent the front apron and bumper bracket (of course). I think it made a hole in the Honda rubber bumper.  My car was damaged much more than hers. 
So in my opinion, the T-bars will not provide your car any protection.  It's pretty much about saving weight and the look if you ask me.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011, 22:55:43 pm »

Or just make your own, no big deal.  Wink  You could be the first to have a set of Ti T-bars  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 23:08:27 pm »

They look pretty cool !!!  Cool
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2011, 02:52:24 am »

I've had the EMPI aluminum T-bars on my Beetle for six years and they still look good as new:

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2011, 06:17:50 am »

FYI, Fast Fab has the hex T-bars also, great quality, have a set for my 69' from Fast Fab.
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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2011, 06:28:41 am »

These are Fast Fab Hex-T's
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2011, 06:40:32 am »

Picture nabbed from Ed Craig at the Classic..thanks Ed.
Patrick, thats was your oval?, I'm parked in the back ground, the late model 69', nice oval!

Ted
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2011, 06:53:06 am »

Picture nabbed from Ed Craig at the Classic..thanks Ed.
Patrick, thats was your oval?, I'm parked in the back ground, the late model 69', nice oval!

Ted

What the Hell! You were there and didn't stop by to say "hello"?  Yup,  that is my Oval,..thanks for the compliment, I have fun with it.  Actually after I parked it, wiped it off, I was gone walking. I left the show about 12 noon because of the long drive home. I tried to do as much as I could that weekend, starting with Nicks, then the Big/little 3, bowling, Bergs, etc..etc...BTW,  I have your empi axle box still just in case those axles ever show up from the USPS, but I ain't hold'n ma breath.
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2011, 09:01:32 am »

Soemtimes I look at T-Bars and think they stick out to far, is this just me.  This is not true for all, just some.  So it must be down to who made them.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2011, 15:21:15 pm »

Hey guys,
     Those all look great! You know, I have a friend that runs a flow jet machine!!!!!!!! ONE PIECE T BARS................MOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  MOOOHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH MOOOOHAAHAHAHAHAH  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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