Improving your IDA´s...

[magic]

Neil Armstrong and 11 other people have walked on the moon and even more people over the world have been to the outer space. They improved their space rockets and material over the years and by thinking out of the box and doing back to back test of their material. They improved quite well over the years and are still improving.

OC1967vw No one’s been on the moon.
Scientists proved that more than 100 years ago. Do you think scientists didn’t know there stuff back then
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky a well-known scientist did some calculations back in 1903 on using a cannon for space travel. He concluded that a gun would have to be impossibly long. The gun would subject the payload to about 22000 g of acceleration. That is about 1000 times that the 20-30 g the human body can handle for a few seconds. Find a history book and read it yourself.
No one’s have walked on the moon, and no one’s ever will.
Bin there done that end of story.



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Sorry OC I couldn’t help it   I just don’t think you know exactly how the JPM venturies work.
Have you looked at his website?  http://www.jpmotorsports.se/products2
No offense taken.

LOL!    ohh man, this is cool! ......  

[Paul Bate]

Hmmmm,

God knows why I'm going to post again 

This will be the last time before I post up the results!

OC1967VW

You have NO respect for anyones opinion on this subject unless it can somehow back up YOUR understanding.

1) I have no interest in this product unless it delivers performance on the street & strip PERIOD!

2) I have never subscribed to the whole Gene Berg thing, sorry he did many great things. However If I read and believed everything he said I'd be running 8.5 to 1 CR and stock heads. The fact is I've run comp eliminators on the road since 1996 and they are still on the car and it's never overheated  I can also think for myself and I don't anyones approval.

3) With the greatest respect to all the open minded non arrogant nice Americans. Sorry but this product doesn't need the USA's approval! Lets think a little:
Webber 48ida's - Italian
BRM, Speedwell - British
Berg's Cranks - Swedish
Flat Four designed - Germany

Very European wouldn't you say?

4) I purchased my Beetle at 17 without any knowledge of Cal Look or the fact they could be be modified to go fast. I was not motivated by the Gene Berg or Dean Lowry etc... In fact I just didn't want a Ford Escort or a Fiesta like my friends and I thought the VW Beetle looked great and was cool...that's it.
Then I went to Bug Jam and was just fascinated by how fast a VW could be. I was inspired/stunned by John Brewster & Julian Rose.

5) I have spoke to Maclaren F1 and from now on all parts will be sent directly to the USA your approval, as they're now in total disarray after discovering none of their parts will work otherwise! 
BTW, You probably don't know what F1 is, it's regarded as the pinnacle of motorsport in small circles mainly everywhere outside of the USA (the rest of the world). For the record most of the F1 teams are UK based with as far as I know Europens engineers and by all accounts they have done OK!

6) Perhaps your head so far up your own backside you can't see the light!

For those who are interested in knowing the FACTS not FICTION I will report my findings with total HONESTY and then you can make your own mind up!


Kind regards Paul

[TexasTom]

It's OK, Paul.
Last time I checked Texas made up a Hell of a percentage of the USA, and I'm here to say that Johannes is The Man when it comes to NEWLY Developed technology for the air-cooled VW.
Call me a fool, but I follow him just as I do AND did in the past for Gene Berg Enterprises, and others with innovative developments for our Small, but Highly Focused scene in the world.

I for one, will be VERY Interested in Your findings, but have to admit that even after you've submitted, there's a chance I'll have to retest for myself
My only wish, is that JPM was CLOSER to me! My wish would be both GBE and JPM where located next to my shop, in the same complex ... of course, in this scenario, Jeff Denham & I would already work together ...
Everybody says, "Small world", But I wish it were even smaller.

OnO,
TxT

[Frallan]

My take on this thread is not any longer only technical for me, it is breaking down the Atlantic and breaking down regional/country borders.
I will not comment any longer as all my arguments and more too, are nicely reflected by others.
Apart from the main technical topic, this thread has added value to me.
Thanks!

[58vw]

My take on this thread is not any longer only technical for me, it is breaking down the Atlantic and breaking down regional/country borders.
I will not comment any longer as all my arguments and more too, are nicely reflected by others.
Apart from the main technical topic, this thread has added value to me.
Thanks!

well said.

[58vw]

Mr TXTOM...

if you could get Mr Denham to move to Texas (the second biggets state..haha) i would go back to cali and help him move!!!

sorry,...back to the regular programming

[Fasterbrit]

Oct67vw... Here's a link to the product on JPM's website: http://www.jpmotorsports.se/produkter2
You may notice that he has registered the design with the authorities and a patent is in process.
Maybe sometime soon the penny may actually drop? Regards, Matt

[Martin]

i was thinking about dusting off a pair of my IDA's, nope gone stick to my EFI

Good thread boys,

I'm sure Johannes would have tested this combo to death. as he don't sell dress-up parts

I know I'm looking forward to see Pauls A/B testing on this setup, but i think we already know what the results will be.



Picture from my antique cabinet




I know i shouldn't post anything when I've had so little sleep...... lol

[Udo]

Martin , that is antique but nice , our cars are also antique , so it is ok. EFI is more for watercooled engines  
If you do not want them longer let me know ...

Udo

[Martin]

lol,

Its ok, i'll keep them there just the right size to keep pens in better with the JPM Mod, as i can get more pens in


hey just thought its my car's 60th birthday this year, your right its antique ! lol (oh and water cooled lol ) still sticking with the EFI, although its a bastard drilling the injectors with the extra progression hole!


Hope to catch you at the track this year be nice to see your new car ...

[Udo]

I think we will meet , 2 times in england this year .
One engine with 51,5 and one with 58 carbs. 

Udo

[magic]

Hey Magic
I think it was 2010. That was a great day and night. Really cool to hook up with such a great bunch of Europeans. Shame I couldn't make it 2011 as I would have loved to have been there. What was the biggest horsepower reading on the dyno for 2011?

Hey Matt

sorry for the late reply!! But yes. it was a great day and night! ( and it's always cool to get a face on your fellow lounger....!) The 2011 Dynoday Was a little low on horsepower (compared to previous years) if i remember correct, it was a great Swedish guy (sorry, can't remember his name. someone help me!) with a cool, silver oval bug. It showed 220 + somthing bhp. (help me again with the correct number please!)
This year, I'll come in my aircooled, and put it on the dyno. ( mayby I should bring my old venturies...... just to compare!!! But maybe it's a waste of time.... not being The US of A?? ? ?? ;0)

Magic

[Martin]

I think we will meet , 2 times in england this year .
One engine with 51,5 and one with 58 carbs. 

Udo

Look forward to it Udo. i'll just stick with the 112mm turbo, that Carb stuff confuses me, i don't have a Weber manual so I'm confused on there workings... 

[Jussifin]

Talking of JPM IDA-parts... I also installed 38mm JPM IDA-venturis and JPM-velocitystacs on my Ghias 1.6 rallyengine.  My engine is working best on high-rpm:s, not easy to drive. But after this modification it really runs from much lower rpm very flexible and does not need any help by kicking the clutchpedal like before, when rpm went "too low"(under 4000) at different rallysituations. Now it works like mild street-engine also when we drive between the specialstages on normal roads. It goes up from 1500rpm without problems.
At racing rpm:s it feels much more agressive and really runs better when driving. At dyno it went from old result 142hp to 146hp at 7000rpm. Engine run 8600rpm very easy and dropped very little maxhp near 8000rpm. That 7-8 area we will try to develope next with modifying the exhaust. Inside there is JPM-dualsprings working 100%.
We have tested and developed this engine many times and these parts were absolutely the easiest to see that difference
on flexibility and the difference of answering the gaspedal, which was huge also.   

Nowadays there is not many places where you can buy really bolt-on high quality raceparts as from JPM. VERY GOOD work again Johannes!


Summer dragrace, winter rally


Jussi
 

[Jesse/DVK]

Did you also drill the third progression hole? As Johannes recommends that right?

[richie]

Talking of JPM IDA-parts... I also installed 38mm JPM IDA-venturis and JPM-velocitystacs on my Ghias 1.6 rallyengine.  My engine is working best on high-rpm:s, not easy to drive. But after this modification it really runs from much lower rpm very flexible and does not need any help by kicking the clutchpedal like before, when rpm went "too low"(under 4000) at different rallysituations. Now it works like mild street-engine also when we drive between the specialstages on normal roads. It goes up from 1500rpm without problems.
At racing rpm:s it feels much more agressive and really runs better when driving. At dyno it went from old result 142hp to 146hp at 7000rpm. Engine run 8600rpm very easy and dropped very little maxhp near 8000rpm. That 7-8 area we will try to develope next with modifying the exhaust. Inside there is JPM-dualsprings working 100%.
We have tested and developed this engine many times and these parts were absolutely the easiest to see that difference
on flexibility and the difference of answering the gaspedal, which was huge also.   

Nowadays there is not many places where you can buy really bolt-on high quality raceparts as from JPM. VERY GOOD work again Johannes!


Summer dragrace, winter rally


Jussi
 

very nice,sounds like they really worked,but you know you have to take you rally car to USA to be tested before anyone will believe you



cheers Richie

[Frallan]

Jussi!

Never met you but it feels like I know you. Fun.
Excellent feedback. Thanks. Now you convinced me to also add it to a small engine I am building. Impressiive.

Guys, let us park the discussion of were to test stuff. On this topic it is only one small street in Southern California that seems to have an issue.
I really do feel the atmosphere between all our global corners are being erased on thsese forums and we show more and more respect.
That is really a good thing.
I am amazed to see the good stuff in Slovenia, Bulgaria, Middle east, Asia, South Africa and Down under places, jsut few examples...we all have something to share, add and learn.
Now back to the topic!

[58vw]

Talking of JPM IDA-parts... I also installed 38mm JPM IDA-venturis and JPM-velocitystacs on my Ghias 1.6 rallyengine.  My engine is working best on high-rpm:s, not easy to drive. But after this modification it really runs from much lower rpm very flexible and does not need any help by kicking the clutchpedal like before, when rpm went "too low"(under 4000) at different rallysituations. Now it works like mild street-engine also when we drive between the specialstages on normal roads. It goes up from 1500rpm without problems.
At racing rpm:s it feels much more agressive and really runs better when driving. At dyno it went from old result 142hp to 146hp at 7000rpm. Engine run 8600rpm very easy and dropped very little maxhp near 8000rpm. That 7-8 area we will try to develope next with modifying the exhaust. Inside there is JPM-dualsprings working 100%.
We have tested and developed this engine many times and these parts were absolutely the easiest to see that difference
on flexibility and the difference of answering the gaspedal, which was huge also.   

Nowadays there is not many places where you can buy really bolt-on high quality raceparts as from JPM. VERY GOOD work again Johannes!


Summer dragrace, winter rally


Jussi
 

very nice,sounds like they really worked,but you know you have to take you rally car to USA to be tested before anyone will believe you



cheers Richie

Yes...ship the car over here...let me test run it...then maybe i will believe...actually...can you send about four cars...may take a while....lol

[Frallan]

How are you international open minded American guys doing with this?
Has anyone bought a set and tried back to back in USA?

I really wish one or more of you takes the step and try it.
Few days ago another very successful story came to my knowledge. I will not share the details myself but i do think the owner or a friend of him will soon.
The Swedish guy is  friend of mine and VW Drag racer and also owning a very nice super beetle that he drives on a daily basis both on the street and once in a while on the eighth mile.
I.e. when I talked to him, he was all smiles. He knows his stuff and he has zero reason to BS.

I have asked JPM Johannes for a set to update my Jaycee 51.3 mm carbs.
We will run back to back in July and I will for sure report good and bad experiences.

How about you?

[Henrik Hagen]

Any news... 

Henrik Hagen

[JS]

Have used my car on the street for the last weeks, might have something with the switch to F20 emulsion tubes, but the flat spot on the carbs is less noticeable with the new venturies. In other words - they work great on the street!

[Peter]

Hey JS,
are they f20's?
i thought Johannes suggests f2's?

Peter

[JS]

He may recommend different tubes for different applications. I went from F2 to F20.

[Stefan Rossi]

Paul, any results from you're testing? These seem to be working very good for people. Think I will have to purchase a set.

OC1967VW, will I have to drive to California to get them verified for use on my VW and so you and some "famous" people can see that they work for real?

Well maybe at least on the drive ill get better fuel consumption with them 

Look forward to fitting these to my IDA's, street driving is sometimes horrible around 2000-2500rpm

Regards

Stef

[dragvw2180]

 I have allot of respect for JPM and the products he has developed . If he made or sold junk parts or parts that did not live up to his claims he would have been called out a long time ago, don't remember that happening. I have never owned any of his products but that was more about who I was working with on projects rather than the product. I believe everything can be improved on and I guess I am lucky to still believe I can learn something new every day. I respected Gene Berg alot but unlike OC1967vw I know that Gene made mistakes just like everyone else and opinions are only as good as the info they have at the time.  To condemn a product without ever testing it yourself is either very bold or stupid depending on whether it proves to work or not. I hope JPM continues to develope new products along with all the other innovators in our VW world. Ed  why don't you do us a favor and introduce yourself and tell us who you are and what your qualifications as an expert are so that next time someone comes out with a new product they can check with you first about the viability of it. Mike McCarthy

[bedjo78]

OC1967vw .... I think you are most knowledgable in all what you have said.  But apperently i don't have any respect with your knowledge because you use your knowledge to defend someone that doing innovation. theory is use to support what you are doing. if you just talk all day long with your theory and doing none.....what useless time you spent

Go to coffee shop and continue your theory all day there and blame someone that doing good for others

[pupjoint]

i can't think of anyone not wanting to use JPM valve train and heads or parts in their motor(s), other than money issues. 

JPM is and has been doing great stuff for our little VW industry, think about this, a small shop dedicating all this R&D for a "niche" Type 1 engine?

[1950split]

Hi,

I'm thinking about buying a set of 42mm JPM venturies but in consideration of the investment I'd like to have some feedback from people that have used them on a regular basis, street/strip use.
I'd prefer real back to back figures/facts about hp/torque increase rather than "general" driving impression.

Has anyone of you done such testing ? Are they fully plug & play or do you need to make any massaging or mods to the carbs before fitting them ?

Thanks

Phil

[JS]

The venturies themselves are 100% plug and play. I have only had the chance to do back to back testing at the strip.

[1950split]

Thanks for your reply JS.

I have read I don't remember where, that they required mods to be fitted.

And were the improvments on the track, OEM vs JPM venturies ?

And what about JPM's stacks ? Do they improve flow compared to OEM stacks ? How do they compare to Bergs or Jaycee's ?