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« Reply #150 on: March 14, 2012, 17:47:31 pm »

A very small bit today ( I had to do some work lol) 1mm cutting disks are my friend for cutting the 8mm plate  Grin



The nuts are just temp spacers ivegot to make some proper ones

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« Reply #151 on: March 15, 2012, 18:46:47 pm »

Done a bit today fitted some gussets to strengthen up the a arms as they are going to take a bit of abuse  Cheesy





I don't think they will moving now lol

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« Reply #152 on: March 16, 2012, 17:40:12 pm »

got loads done today Smiley

nearly finished the rear supension











feel like im getting there now Smiley

Cheers Andy
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« Reply #153 on: March 18, 2012, 14:51:28 pm »

bit more done today shes back on her feet Smiley









i need to check all the angles and them weld it all up Smiley

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« Reply #154 on: March 24, 2012, 13:53:50 pm »

ive been messing about most of the week trying to sort the ride height out, ive got to move the A arm mounts as i havent as much room a i thouht i may have Sad







after 3 hours 20 1mm cutting disks and a blown up grinder









so thats one mount done just got to weld the rest up and buy a new grinder lol

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« Reply #155 on: March 27, 2012, 17:42:15 pm »

spent most of the day inbetween quotes and phone call re fitting the rear A arms with stronger mounts







ride height so far



but ive got to redo the suspension mounts as its moved about Sad


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« Reply #156 on: March 29, 2012, 17:14:37 pm »


went to pick up some nice items from Mr Smith at Cotsweld today Smiley







as you can see i coudnt wait to try them on lol

cheers andy
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« Reply #157 on: March 30, 2012, 08:15:21 am »

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« Reply #158 on: March 30, 2012, 21:35:31 pm »

hi Andy!

how do you mount the bracket of the chute
to the car?

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« Reply #159 on: April 02, 2012, 17:41:14 pm »

hi Andy!

how do you mount the bracket of the chute
to the car?

cheers,
basti

hi there are tubes welded to the gearbox mount and you use four pins to secure I hope that makes sense Smiley


this afternoon i set to it again and cut off the suspension mounts i needed to move









just a few gussets to fit and weld in place onec ive put the car back on the floor

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« Reply #160 on: April 02, 2012, 19:36:00 pm »

Andy, I could be wrong here as not 100% sure from the pictures but, did you narrow it inches to then put a 5inch wheel spacer to take it to exactly where you started from? I am puzzled about what you are trying to achieve here? what did I miss?   Huh Grin


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« Reply #161 on: April 02, 2012, 19:59:17 pm »

Hi Richie the rear is narrowed by 2" so i can fit the coilovers in I cant go more due to the way the cage is and also so i can fit the drive shafts in they arnt going to be very long as it is which isnt the best. I've use the 65mm spacers for mocking up I'm not planing on using them, I've got to build the rear wheels up to get the offset correct Ive fitted wider wings as well, the reason I made the arms is so I can tweak ride height etc without camber change hope that makes sense

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« Reply #162 on: April 02, 2012, 20:48:32 pm »

Hi Richie the rear is narrowed by 2" so i can fit the coilovers in I cant go more due to the way the cage is and also so i can fit the drive shafts in they arnt going to be very long as it is which isnt the best. I've use the 65mm spacers for mocking up I'm not planing on using them, I've got to build the rear wheels up to get the offset correct Ive fitted wider wings as well, the reason I made the arms is so I can tweak ride height etc without camber change hope that makes sense

Cheers andy

Perfectly Grin   

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« Reply #163 on: April 03, 2012, 19:25:36 pm »

Yesss rear suspension is done even adjusted so it's straight lol









Now I've got mess about with the rear wheel offset to get rid of the spacers, a few bits of body work to sort tmw fitting the wing mounts and a few other bits then back to bruce for paint

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« Reply #164 on: April 03, 2012, 20:08:46 pm »

Andy

well done for keeping at it and getting it done Smiley  Must be a good feeling to have done it yourself & for it to work

Does it change the camber much through the range of movement? and will you keep the limit straps? and what spring rate will you start with? with the shock angled over like that it will need to be quite hard

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« Reply #165 on: April 03, 2012, 20:16:23 pm »

Hi

Im happy with what ive done i would change a few things if i did it again, The camber stays the same no change, as for the limit straps that depends on if I can decide if it's a good idea or not lol. The springs are 500lb the shock is in place to follow the radius of the arm so I think it maybe ok but I'm a sparky not an engineer so I'm sure I will find out

Thanks for the comments Smiley

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« Reply #166 on: April 03, 2012, 20:22:53 pm »

Hi

i would change a few things if i did it again

Cheers andy

No dont even think about it Angry Cheesy   

Thats really good that theres no camber change,I dont know about the shock angle for sure,it seems that for say 3 inches of suspension travel when the shock is leaned over,you dont get the same movement at the shock so the effective spring rate is reduced,if it is straight up then you get a true relation of movement to spring rate.There is not enough info available to say which route is the best to take,it all can work with the right setting up
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« Reply #167 on: April 03, 2012, 20:24:37 pm »

keep at it andy, just start going forward and not 1 back 2 forward Tongue.
good to see the car in the flesh. Cool
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« Reply #168 on: April 04, 2012, 19:08:18 pm »

Cheers thanks full steam ahead now  Smiley On to the body work welding first up rear wing mounts







Then test fit the wings and the bonnet that (java) doesn't fit :mad:





Welded up a load of unused holes, so tmw dash and camera mounts

Cheers andy
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« Reply #169 on: April 04, 2012, 20:47:26 pm »

Nice to meet you at the weekend Andy. Keep up the good work.  Cool
I think you will find that 500 lb springs will be way too soft given the orientation and angle of your coilovers. Mine are in a very similar place and are slightly canted also. I started out with 550s and worked my up to 850s. I think I might even need heavier...
Take it easy  Cool
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« Reply #170 on: April 05, 2012, 16:27:57 pm »

Nice to meet you at the weekend Andy. Keep up the good work.  Cool
I think you will find that 500 lb springs will be way too soft given the orientation and angle of your coilovers. Mine are in a very similar place and are slightly canted also. I started out with 550s and worked my up to 850s. I think I might even need heavier...
Take it easy  Cool

cool thanks for the heads up i will look at getting some heavier ones  Smiley

seamed to take an age today to mod the rear valance but all done Smiley





swaged the dzus fasteners in



bonnet pin mounts



and andys tip of the day for welding up big holes in sheet steel lol :lol:



put some copper sheet behind and weld to that takes away the heat from the panel and steel doesnt stick to it Smiley



then just grind flat just like new

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« Reply #171 on: April 19, 2012, 18:46:59 pm »

Time for a small update not done much to the car been a bit busy with work  Roll Eyes but the G50 is going and Im sure some of you will know about this piece of workmanship by all torque and Marco




The only one in the world 930 vertigate box and its going in my car Smiley

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« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2012, 02:36:22 am »

Thats is beautiful! Congratulations!

I had a 4 speed 915 vertigate...
Nope I did not build it but bought it from Claes Ebbenäs (RIP) who built it in 1980.
It then had a billet spool, billet side cover (with bronze side flex support) and best of all, liberty pro gears gears.
It was never raced by me, prior to selling it again.

I wonder were it is? Typically only a drag race box and shouls still be alive somwhere.
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« Reply #173 on: May 02, 2012, 16:09:54 pm »

Thats is beautiful! Congratulations!

I had a 4 speed 915 vertigate...
Nope I did not build it but bought it from Claes Ebbenäs (RIP) who built it in 1980.
It then had a billet spool, billet side cover (with bronze side flex support) and best of all, liberty pro gears gears.
It was never raced by me, prior to selling it again.

I wonder were it is? Typically only a drag race box and shouls still be alive somwhere.

Thanks it's all matt and Marcos work  Grin

And woo hoo transmission is here Smiley



order goes 930, g50, T1 lol

vertigate shafts



i thought the G50 had a big diff that a G50 cover plate next to the 930



the shifter



cant wait to fit this tmw Smiley

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« Reply #174 on: May 03, 2012, 17:58:48 pm »

Bit of progress to made a acetal blanking plug for we're the shift rod came out



In and fitted I put 6mm thread in it do can pull it out if I need to and put 2 grub screws to hold the plug in its tight on the o rings but last thing I want is the plug to blow out a flood the track with gearbox oil lol



Made the mount for the shifter and welded it to the chassis



Fingers crossed I can mount the box tmw and measure up for the shift rods

Cheers andy
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« Reply #175 on: May 04, 2012, 15:47:05 pm »

got a very small bit done today offered the transmission up to car fit in well were the G50 lived





this part maybe interesting getting shift rods here lol



from here



just got to work out how i mount the rear

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« Reply #176 on: May 04, 2012, 20:47:20 pm »

Looking good... Boo hoo I'm all teary now. Glad the transmission and shifter have gone to a good home  Cool
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« Reply #177 on: May 06, 2012, 18:44:06 pm »

Looking good... Boo hoo I'm all teary now. Glad the transmission and shifter have gone to a good home  Cool

You and Marco did a great job I'm chuffed with it and the shifter is ace  Grin what size shift rods were you planing I'm thinking 12mm to fit the 3/8 rose joints and also I don't want any flex in them

Cheers andy
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« Reply #178 on: May 06, 2012, 22:13:21 pm »

I reckon 5/8 cro-mo tubing would be perfect. Try Andy Robinson Race Cars. I have bought moly tubing from them in the past Wink
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« Reply #179 on: May 06, 2012, 22:24:26 pm »

I reckon 5/8 cro-mo tubing would be perfect. Try Andy Robinson Race Cars. I have bought moly tubing from them in the past Wink

Ok cheers  Grin
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