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leec
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Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 09, 2012, 19:03:15 pm »
Having had one fail on me at drag day:( I am wondering what my alternatives are.
I liked the CB one as it didn't require a regulator and my fuel system is already done so do not really want to run a pump requiring a regulator. Problem with a like for like replacement as I am hearing more and more reliability issues with the cb/carter rotary fuel pump.
Any ideas?
Lee
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Jesse/DVK
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 09, 2012, 22:54:30 pm »
I'm happy with my Mitsuba fuel pump. Quiet and reliable. Not cheap..
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 02:31:25 am »
I'm running a Mallory Comp 70 pump, part number 4070LP. It is very, very quiet, gerotor design, uses 3/8" NPT fittings, easily rebuildable and made in USA. It comes factory set at 4psi, but can be turned down. I'm running it with no regulator. Also not as cheap as the CB pump but the quality is worth it for me. I rubber mounted it to my front bulkhead but I don't think it really need to be it is so quite. I can barely hear it with the engine shut off.
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mallory-70-GPH-High-Performance-Fuel-Pump-4070LP-p/mallory4070lp.htm
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Fiatdude
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 05:36:54 am »
Lee --- I've had all kinds of pumps fail on me UNTIL I started running a regulator with a bypass and NOT ONE failure since.......
The fuel continuesly flowing through the pump keeps the temps way down and it makes them live --- I know that extra line back is a pain but not very expensive in the long run.... Lately I've seen some guys runing the bypass just past the pump so the return line is very short then.....
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leec
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 09:56:24 am »
Quote from: Jesse/DVK on April 09, 2012, 22:54:30 pm
I'm happy with my Mitsuba fuel pump. Quiet and reliable. Not cheap..
What pressure does it produce? You run IDA's don't you?
Have you got a link to one so I can see it?
Thank you for the other replies, don't mind a bit of noise though!!
Lee
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Shane Noone
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 11:48:56 am »
Hi Lee, I'm running a Facet Interruptor ( thinks it's silver top model ) listed as race spec and through a malpassi filter king as you probably noticed at drag day ? Anyway seems up to the job of feeding my IDA's.
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Jesse/DVK
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 12:23:00 pm »
Quote from: leec on April 10, 2012, 09:56:24 am
Quote from: Jesse/DVK on April 09, 2012, 22:54:30 pm
I'm happy with my Mitsuba fuel pump. Quiet and reliable. Not cheap..
What pressure does it produce? You run IDA's don't you?
Have you got a link to one so I can see it?
Thank you for the other replies, don't mind a bit of noise though!!
Lee
http://www.scparts.co.uk/index/lang-2/lkz-195/markenid-3/katnr-258/kat_sprache-2/hrubnr-1916/rubrik-8014/index.php?tpl=clickable_vertikal.tpl&artikeldetailtop=-500
I run IDA"s yes. I have a small regulator to get it to 3.5psi. Stock it does 4psi.
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leec
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 14:48:02 pm »
Quote from: Shane Noone on April 10, 2012, 11:48:56 am
Hi Lee, I'm running a Facet Interruptor ( thinks it's silver top model ) listed as race spec and through a malpassi filter king as you probably noticed at drag day ? Anyway seems up to the job of feeding my IDA's.
Hi Shane,
Do you run a regulator?
Lee
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Shane Noone
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 16:36:36 pm »
Quote from: leec on April 10, 2012, 14:48:02 pm
Quote from: Shane Noone on April 10, 2012, 11:48:56 am
Hi Lee, I'm running a Facet Interruptor ( thinks it's silver top model ) listed as race spec and through a malpassi filter king as you probably noticed at drag day ? Anyway seems up to the job of feeding my IDA's.
Hi Shane,
Do you run a regulator?
Lee
Hi Lee, yes the Malpassi Filter King is a regulator. The bowl shaped thing in my engine bay with a filter and presssure gauge attached.
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 10, 2012, 20:46:09 pm »
Quote from: Fiatdude on April 10, 2012, 05:36:54 am
.... Lately I've seen some guys runing the bypass just past the pump so the return line is very short
This approach is not great practice as the pressure at the carbs will be considerably less after travelling all that distance from the regulator. It is better to go the conventional long way round... A hassle running a long return line, but flow and pressure will be correct. And like you say, the benefit of cooler fuel and a cool running pump.
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speed7
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 13, 2012, 02:28:27 am »
Hi Lee ,
after having trouble with a Holley Fuel pump , I switched to this german Fuel pump HARDI , which on top is auto regulating .
I had the regulator from the old pump and left it at the engine side , but the guy told me I did not really needed it while the pump
automatically regulates to a max pressure.
You can find one of the HARDI pumps on Ebay.de (germany) under item# 390102104298 (this is a 130 l/h)
There are different capacities available , and the guy at "Fireball.de" will reply at all questions you might have for the installation of your pump.
I use the pump on my street/strip 2180cc bug with dual 48 IDA's with no fuel starvation for now.
Greetz
Marc
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henk
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 13, 2012, 10:04:24 am »
i bought a hardi as well,the one for engines over 150hp
mine came from here.
http://www.german-performance-parts.be/index.php?item=electrische-benzinepomp&action=article&group_id=20000021&aid=239&lang=NL
henk!!!
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Greg G
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Re: Alternative to CB Rotary Fuel pump?
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April 14, 2012, 02:36:58 am »
Quote from: speed7 on April 13, 2012, 02:28:27 am
Hi Lee ,
after having trouble with a Holley Fuel pump , I switched to this german Fuel pump HARDI , which on top is auto regulating .
I had the regulator from the old pump and left it at the engine side , but the guy told me I did not really needed it while the pump
automatically regulates to a max pressure.
You can find one of the HARDI pumps on Ebay.de (germany) under item# 390102104298 (this is a 130 l/h)
There are different capacities available , and the guy at "Fireball.de" will reply at all questions you might have for the installation of your pump.
I use the pump on my street/strip 2180cc bug with dual 48 IDA's with no fuel starvation for now.
Greetz
Marc
That is a good del for that pump. They are twice that price over here in the US.
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