How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo

[richie]

Knowledge is power, I had no doubt it would happen 2nd run

Well done love it

Only just but good enough

[richie]

Well done!

How much power are you making for that 10?

My estimate about 200 on the engine and about 75 of nitrous, its hard to be exact as the tune was so rich I don't know how much power its robbing

cheers Richie

[richie]

Whooo cool, nice achievement 

Thanks Eddie

[Neil Davies]

Nice one Richie, I had no doubt you'd do it, but to do it on the second pass is outstanding!  Congratulations!

[richie]

Nice one Richie, I had no doubt you'd do it, but to do it on the second pass is outstanding!  Congratulations!

thanks, I like to put myself under pressure making stupid promises & predictions

[richie]

Videos


1st 10 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zmlN1Tom2g

and 2nd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSCP1jA4GJw

cheers Richie

[Zach Gomulka]

Well done! I see you were cheating though running the light wheels

Very eager to see what's in it when the tune is sorted.

[richie]

Well done! I see you were cheating though running the light wheels

Very eager to see what's in it when the tune is sorted.

Yep  they are Jo's, only thing I had around with slicks on and they are 4 years or so old so not ideal, best thing is they were free

[richie]

Timing ticket

[richie]

The 12.44@103 was N/A with muffler and belt on[ it did try to jump off, was twisted round after run] and I missed 3rd gear as you can hear!!!! I am sure it will go 11s N/A if I was motivated

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKJOd8x2hg

[Jo Clifford]

Here's a few pics, thanks to Blackett Photography for some of them  

[Jo Clifford]

and a few more

[Andy Sykes]

Faster than all the Picnic racers and did what it said in the tin  

[Turbo_Rich]

Congrats on the 10 that is so cool 2nd pass out. Certainly looks lively off the line. Car turned out good 

[leec]

Faster than all the Picnic racers and did what it said in the tin  

What's a picnic racer?

[WhiteTrash]

Well done mate.
Definitely an 11 N/A next time. Nice 1.47 60ft on 3rd run.

[Rocket Ron]

Stop making it look easy  

Ron,

I came to this conclusion on the way home, all you need to do is come up with a plan of what you want to do, stick to it and search out the parts you need, then buy them when they come up for sale

I can see from your avatar that some of this might be a problem for you  

cheers Richie

Think you've hit it on the head, was thinking the same thing the other day. Biggest problem with me is too  little time to work on cars and too much thinking time. Done at home now so next few years should be my time to play. Will be the same parts just in a smaller lighter car 

Well done anyway, be nice to know how much the car worked out in the end.

[andy198712]

Great result!

how does it drive on the street?

[richie]

Great result!

how does it drive on the street?

Pretty good actually, nice and smooth for what it is, gearing is plenty tall enough, maybe even slightly over geared for track as you can hear in 3rd gear in vids, but it was what came up cheap, its just a little noisy, seems to get about 25mpg which is fine as not alot of driving for gas milage happens 
 
I put carpet in passenger side already, going to do driver side and rear package tray area and that will do for noise reduction

cheers Richie

[andy198712]

Great result!

how does it drive on the street?

Pretty good actually, nice and smooth for what it is, gearing is plenty tall enough, maybe even slightly over geared for track as you can hear in 3rd gear in vids, but it was what came up cheap, its just a little noisy, seems to get about 25mpg which is fine as not alot of driving for gas milage happens 
 
I put carpet in passenger side already, going to do driver side and rear package tray area and that will do for noise reduction

cheers Richie

Thats a rear bonus! sounds like an amazing all rounder! not many 10 second beetles driving about on the roads!

[richie]

Well done anyway, be nice to know how much the car worked out in the end.

Rough total is £11,430, that is with some wheeling and dealing, bought some stuff, didn't need/use it and sold it on, then selling most of the original car[engine, gearbox &axles, interior, front wing and bonnet, front bumper, wheels, stock disc brake spindles, rear shocks]   that I didn't need.
Also I traded some things for my time, so in reality to actually duplicate it would be nearer £13K maybe just over and that is with the cheaper wheels, another set of wheels with used slicks etc would add to it some more.


cheers Richie

[Dead Dog]

Good work Richie, hitting the mark on the 2nd run is impressive 
Look forward to seeing how much more you can get into the 10's, but mission accomplished 

[Udo]

Good work and with the EFI it should work well on the street :-)

Udo

[Jeff68]

Wow, but I was pretty sure you would make the goal without much trouble. 12.44 with no bottle and 10.97 with it and 25 mpg too, can't see how you could do it any better.

I have a couple of questions. I read  back through the thread to see what the chassis set up is for this car. From what I read :

Converted to IRS, mid mount, solid mounted transmission, mid mount for transmission

What kind of roll bar did you put in? I think the roll bar is tied to the transmission forks?
What kind of shocks (front and rear) did you use?
Did you end up using a traction bar?

I know that your goal was to build a 10 second car and see how much it cost but for me you really showed how to build a street legal drag car. Kind of like the anatomy of a VW street / drag car. Thanks for taking the time to document / share what you did.
Jeff

[richie]

Good work and with the EFI it should work well on the street :-)

Udo

Thank you, yes it really does drive quite well

Good work Richie, hitting the mark on the 2nd run is impressive 
Look forward to seeing how much more you can get into the 10's, but mission accomplished 

Ta, just don't look at the paint to close


Really think it will go mid 10s like this with some small changes and some development, silly stuff like a different shifter, when I am driving it on road its fine, but strapped in its just to far away and keep missing gears, need one with more bend in it I think

[richie]

Wow, but I was pretty sure you would make the goal without much trouble. 12.44 with no bottle and 10.97 with it and 25 mpg too, can't see how you could do it any better.

I have a couple of questions. I read  back through the thread to see what the chassis set up is for this car. From what I read :

Converted to IRS, mid mount, solid mounted transmission, mid mount for transmission

What kind of roll bar did you put in? I think the roll bar is tied to the transmission forks?
What kind of shocks (front and rear) did you use?
Did you end up using a traction bar?

I know that your goal was to build a 10 second car and see how much it cost but for me you really showed how to build a street legal drag car. Kind of like the anatomy of a VW street / drag car. Thanks for taking the time to document / share what you did.
Jeff

Thanks Jeff

the roll cage was made by Jim at cotsweld race cars   http://cotsweld.co.uk/  and yes its tied to frame forks and shock towers and torsion housing, no traction bar is used

It has old[14 years old] competition engineering 3 way adjustable front shocks and used qa1 single adjustable rears

cheers Richie

[stretch]

So, are you going to enter the cab in Super Comp & the 67 in Super Street?  If your desperate & need a 2nd driver.......   

Congrats by the way, fantastic achievement.

[richie]

So, are you going to enter the cab in Super Comp & the 67 in Super Street?  If your desperate & need a 2nd driver.......   

Congrats by the way, fantastic achievement.

Shhhhhhh, at the moment its just a rumour, and we know how those go   But possibly for national finals , don't think I will get the 67 as far under the index as the cab but will try and see if I get it their

I got a lightweight jockey for it once she has done some roads miles in it and got used to it but thanks for the offer


thanks  , yours done yet?

cheers Richie

[stretch]

Really?  Funny how great minds think alike eh?  (Or fools seldom differ  )

As for mine, i'm way off.  It'll be next year before i'm finished.  I've been a bit distracted lately with another (small) project.  Well it started out as a small project & has grown a little.  F**king RHD UK cars.........   

[Berger]

Congratulations going straight into the 10s!! Not that I had any doubt you could do it..

So now after you have raced it, what do you feel the potential in the car is with the current set up?