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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1020 on:
September 29, 2024, 12:13:32 pm »
After sitting under a cover un loved for too long I got time and motivation to work on it again, one thing i didn't like was the multi coloured " black & white taxi" look with mixed white and carbon so decided to paint some of it so it was all white again, more of that later
Whilst i had it apart to do some prep and paint on the carbon panels I could see some places that i figured could be improved on weight wise so the weight loss program continued
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j-f
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Jean-François
Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1021 on:
September 29, 2024, 20:14:42 pm »
Is this to compensate the weight of filler and paint you just added?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1022 on:
September 29, 2024, 21:35:17 pm »
Quote from: j-f on September 29, 2024, 20:14:42 pm
Is this to compensate the weight of filler and paint you just added?
No filler at all, but yes the paint must be really heavy
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Chip
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1023 on:
September 30, 2024, 22:20:35 pm »
I love seeing the updates on this! Keep them coming! Ready for the meat and potatoes whenever you get the time to share. Obviously its been at the beginning of a racetrack, did it make it to the end?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1024 on:
October 01, 2024, 07:58:35 am »
Quote from: Chip on September 30, 2024, 22:20:35 pm
I love seeing the updates on this! Keep them coming! Ready for the meat and potatoes whenever you get the time to share. Obviously its been at the beginning of a racetrack, did it make it to the end?
Thanks mate
yes went 10.60@128 if i remember correctly
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1025 on:
October 05, 2024, 14:33:28 pm »
So I did the minimal prep needed on the carbon panels and painted them all, this now provided me with another dilema
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Chip
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1026 on:
October 07, 2024, 20:49:36 pm »
I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1027 on:
October 07, 2024, 20:56:07 pm »
I just couldn't bring myself to drill the doors and bonnet for chrome trim so only one choice, de chrome the rest of the car
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1028 on:
October 07, 2024, 21:00:06 pm »
Quote from: Chip on October 07, 2024, 20:49:36 pm
I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!
Guess i need to update this quicker
Thanks for the kind words though, never been one to worry what others think but still good when other people like it to
cheers Richie
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j-f
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Jean-François
Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1029 on:
October 08, 2024, 19:51:27 pm »
Quote from: richie on October 07, 2024, 21:00:06 pm
Quote from: Chip on October 07, 2024, 20:49:36 pm
I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!
Guess i need to update this quicker
Thanks for the kind words though, never been one to worry what others think but still good when other people like it to
cheers Richie
She is hard as a nail
I also like how the rear spoiler look, do you feel it is useful?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1030 on:
October 09, 2024, 08:20:59 am »
Quote from: j-f on October 08, 2024, 19:51:27 pm
She is hard as a nail
I also like how the rear spoiler look, do you feel it is useful?
Thanks mate
Yes i think so, need a bunch of testing to be sure, I have shock sensors fitted so will see how much downforce it has and then lift without it fitted, been testing one on my 1303 on the road and it feels more stable but that's only seat of pants and not 100% reliable
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1031 on:
October 09, 2024, 09:59:07 am »
I bought the wheels a while ago as 2 different pairs so decided to make them match a little better
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leec
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1032 on:
October 09, 2024, 16:28:26 pm »
Really like the wheels - bet they weigh a bit more than the burners though?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1033 on:
October 10, 2024, 09:06:39 am »
Quote from: leec on October 09, 2024, 16:28:26 pm
Really like the wheels - bet they weigh a bit more than the burners though?
Thanks
Yes they are but needed something wider on back for a decent rear tyre as a 6inch slick is about it on a 5.5 wide wheel, and at front a narrower wheel fits the front tyre better as well, mainly same reason Old cab has fuch on it these days
cheers Richie
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BossHogg76
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1034 on:
October 11, 2024, 20:12:48 pm »
I saw the pics put up on the socials, looks really really good. I'm currently looking at a set of your carbon running boards, to keep the theme going, but that might be pushing things too far on a traditional cal looker.
Plus i've got the small matter of engine
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1035 on:
October 12, 2024, 08:04:01 am »
Quote from: BossHogg76 on October 11, 2024, 20:12:48 pm
I saw the pics put up on the socials, looks really really good. I'm currently looking at a set of your carbon running boards, to keep the theme going, but that might be pushing things too far on a traditional cal looker.
Plus i've got the small matter of engine
Thanks
I made a couple pairs with a dark tint now and they become much more subtle on the car
cheers Richie
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nicolas
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1036 on:
October 14, 2024, 18:36:25 pm »
no trim and golden wheels. yes! yes! yes!
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j-f
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Jean-François
Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1037 on:
October 14, 2024, 19:13:03 pm »
Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1038 on:
October 14, 2024, 19:54:30 pm »
Quote from: j-f on October 14, 2024, 19:13:03 pm
Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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Yes that was the rough simple test "prototype" version, when i was happy with it I made a better version and then a mold of it so i can reproduce it easily if there is interest
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1039 on:
October 14, 2024, 21:29:24 pm »
Quote from: richie on October 14, 2024, 19:54:30 pm
Quote from: j-f on October 14, 2024, 19:13:03 pm
Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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Yes that was the rough simple test "prototype" version, when i was happy with it I made a better version and then a mold of it so i can reproduce it easily if there is interest
Good stuff. Must be useful on really fast street car
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1040 on:
October 15, 2024, 18:06:42 pm »
Quote from: j-f on October 14, 2024, 21:29:24 pm
Good stuff. Must be useful on really fast street car
Anything with T1 911 fan/alternator set up needs an external cooler and finding a decent place is always a challenge, more so with lots of pipes tucked away under there
cheers Richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1041 on:
December 22, 2024, 14:27:35 pm »
Not being convinced the upright 911 fan conversion would give the even cylinder cooling i wanted i decided to try create my own!!! I prefer the look of the horizontal fan conversions and they give more room and access in engine bay so that's what I decided to create
I didn't take many pics so there are gaps in the process but this gives you an idea of what is involved!! I started with a roughed out cardboard shape, made a fiberglass mould/shape from that and then lots of measuring and shaping later I had a decent plug i could take a mould off to make a actual part
Due to the shape it needed to be a split mould to allow the final part to release
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1042 on:
December 22, 2024, 15:06:30 pm »
the mould flanges were then drilled so it all bolts back together in same place, mould split and cleaned up then waxed ready to make a part from
1st part was made from fiberglass so if its not right or i mess up fitting and trimming it to fit engine its not an expensive mistake
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BossHogg76
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1043 on:
December 22, 2024, 20:56:36 pm »
Jeez that's some undertaking, looks like something that would have been used to create ground effect in the 80s f1 cars.
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On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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December 22, 2024, 23:10:06 pm »
Quote from: BossHogg76 on December 22, 2024, 20:56:36 pm
On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?
I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1045 on:
December 23, 2024, 20:21:33 pm »
A DTM from Jack Raby is not enough for your purpose?
He did some extensive testing on the VW cooling.
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BossHogg76
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1046 on:
December 24, 2024, 10:30:58 am »
Quote from: richie on December 22, 2024, 23:10:06 pm
Quote from: BossHogg76 on December 22, 2024, 20:56:36 pm
On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?
I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point
i've a Wolfsberg West one in the 67, maybe that could be used as a starting point.
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richie
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1047 on:
December 24, 2024, 19:17:39 pm »
Quote from: j-f on December 23, 2024, 20:21:33 pm
A DTM from Jack Raby is not enough for your purpose?
He did some extensive testing on the VW cooling.
No, for several reasons,
one: all the testing i have read about[no idea how accurate it is] shows it cools evenly over all cylinders but as it uses a regular fan its still limited on how much air it moves at any given rpm, i have a tall 4th gear so fan speed is quite slow, using a 911 fan which moves double the air a wide type 1 fan does at an given rpm should make a huge difference
two: the dtm set up takes even more room in engine bay than type 1 does so harder to fit everything in, and worse work on it as well
three: there may have been some bias in the testing done to prove dtm is best
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1048 on:
December 24, 2024, 19:18:46 pm »
Quote from: BossHogg76 on December 24, 2024, 10:30:58 am
Quote from: richie on December 22, 2024, 23:10:06 pm
Quote from: BossHogg76 on December 22, 2024, 20:56:36 pm
On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?
I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point
i've a Wolfsberg West one in the 67, maybe that could be used as a starting point.
When you get a chance email me some pics of it then please
thanks
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Re: How much money to run 10s in a street car?now with part2, The evolution to turbo
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Reply #1049 on:
December 25, 2024, 09:35:26 am »
Quote from: richie on December 24, 2024, 19:17:39 pm
three: there may have been some bias in the testing done to prove dtm is best
Surely not...
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