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I’ve just turned 40 and having a mid life crisis!  So I thought this is the perfect time to start back on the NSU Prinz 4. It all started back in 2008 when us guys were discussing what types of non VW bodied race cars with flatfour engines had been made over the years and what other models would make good race cars. A few weeks passed and I was visiting my friend Frank (WhiteTrash) on here. He had a Hillman Imp at his workshop and I made a comment referring to the discussion a few weeks before that it would be cool to put a flatfour engine in the Hillman to race. At this point Frank suggested the NSU Prinz as it was very similar to the Hillman, we both laughed at the idea and thought nothing of it until I received a text from Frank telling me that there was an NSU Prinz for sale on the Isle of Wight on Ebay, But It was missing a door and needed some welding. Now bearing in mind that the Isle of Wight is off the South Coast of England, it is also the most expensive crossing per distance….so we scrapped that idea. A week later Frank sent me a link to the German Ebay with an NSU Prinz for sale, I don’t know why but in a moment of madness I put a bid in for €250 thinking that I would be out-bided. Unfortunately I won it as I was the only person to place a bid! As it was all Frank’s fault,  I told him that he had to come with me to collect it plus the fact that he is German would make the exchange easier. Early, very early on Saturday morning 21st February we sailed from Dover to Dunkerque, travelling through France, Belgium, Holland and finally a to a little place deep in north Germany somewhere. It took so long to get there that we stayed overnight and came home on the Sunday. Back in the UK: The idea was to store it until we had some spare time as we already had our own projects on the go. I had to go to the workshop a few weeks later for something and to my surprise Frank had already started. He had stripped and started some welding on it. Things like the engine, gearbox etc.. Were sold to fund the project. Fast forward 4 years to now and a wet weekend in June  I decided it was time to start on the car again. So I called Frank and ask if I could come over a pick it up. It still need a bit of welding doing to one of the sills. Which me and my friend Russ finished off, as the plan was to take it up to Jim Smith of ‘Cotswelds Race Cars’ ( www.cotsweld.co.uk ) to have a roll cage and ladder bar set up. When we got to Jim's we when over what was needed to be done to the car. I was keen to keep it stock height as I was wanting to do a Gasser looking car, but Jim talked me into running the car a low as he could get it. One for safety at high speed and two it will look far better.  To achieve this he would have to narrow the front wishbone suspension by 6" allowing for the 15" ercos to fit under the arch, as the car came with 12" wheels. Moving on the the back of the car he going to shorten a pair of axle tube by 10" over all to take the 5in short race axle. Jim have also sectioned the arches so that the 15" wheels fits in and looks factory. Next Jim will move on the ladder bars, roll cage and frame to hold the gear box (Photos to follow) when finished. The pictures below are a mock up of how the car will eventually sit. I will continue to update this thread with the progress and pictures as Jim continues the work. As for the rest of the car the plan is to fit my 2109cc IDA motor out of my bay window to start with, followed by a small turbo motor when it’s dialed in. Colour, well I haven’t decided yet but I’m sure there will be Gold in it somewhere!         |
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 19:14:02 pm » |
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Good project looking forward to it Cheers andy |
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I love the haters they make me famous.
im building this not just putting parts together, they are two totally different things
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 19:52:50 pm » |
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As I already told you on FB, I totally love it. this or an old simca  Keep us updated. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2012, 20:00:05 pm » |
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As I already told you on FB, I totally love it. this or an old simca Keep us updated. No it's a NSU. That's a car from when YOU were young Love the build Martin Michael |
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 20:13:02 pm » |
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is this the prinz of pervia  ??  |
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 23:45:24 pm » |
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Nice work Bud, always knew where crazy.... |
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 16:48:54 pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 17:17:52 pm » |
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wow, Martin had kept this project really quiet. I've never heard him talk about this at all Lee |
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 17:46:49 pm » |
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Great project Boom Boom, just don't forget to tighten the muffler upon this one |
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 06:28:54 am » |
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wow, Martin had kept this project really quiet. I've never heard him talk about this at all Lee its called embarrassment! |
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 10:17:18 am » |
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As I already told you on FB, I totally love it. this or an old simca Keep us updated. No it's a NSU. That's a car from when YOU were young Love the build Martin Michael Yeah yeah, make fun of an old guy is so easy I meant to say that I love this kind of cars this one AND the old simca's. Damn kidz  |
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 10:58:30 am » |
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I really like this thread, great idea. When do you plan to finish it?
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Martin Greaves
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 20:04:03 pm » |
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Hey guys thanks for all the positive comments. As for when it will be finish, that all down to time and money as always. Would like to have it done for Euro Bug In next year. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 20:18:12 pm » |
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This is an awesome project, saw it in the flesh last week, looking forward to seeing the progress  |
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Martin Greaves
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 13:09:39 pm » |
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Small update for today. Jim has decided that the original m8 studs were not going to be up to the job, so made new ones using m12 studs.  |
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 20:26:21 pm » |
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looking good martin |
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 21:57:25 pm » |
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Hey guys thanks for all the positive comments. As for when it will be finish, that all down to time and money as always. Would like to have it done for Euro Bug In next year. Maybe I'll have my fiat there - it could be a nice race. |
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Martin Greaves
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 19:44:05 pm » |
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Hey guys thanks for all the positive comments. As for when it will be finish, that all down to time and money as always. Would like to have it done for Euro Bug In next year. Maybe I'll have my fiat there - it could be a nice race. Hey would be cool. Let's hope I can get if all finish in time. |
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Martin Greaves
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2012, 22:11:11 pm » |
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Today took my 2109cc motor apart for a fresh up before putting it in the car when ready to. Everything was OK apart from two of the lifter bores, in the mag case. So will be sending it off to have all eight sleeved.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2012, 22:48:48 pm » |
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2012, 23:14:16 pm » |
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2012, 23:21:40 pm » |
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Sorry uncle Keith did I say you would be driving it? |
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2012, 23:26:09 pm » |
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I'm gonna disable reverse gear if he gets in it at EBI |
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 17:18:18 pm » |
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 21:06:13 pm » |
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Looking good |
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Martin Greaves
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 19:37:24 pm » |
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Here two more shots of how the car we sit when finish.   |
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 20:01:30 pm » |
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you need to raise it a few inches, don't think you have accounted for the driver!!!! |
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 22:05:59 pm » |
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Remembering this tiny cars this is going to be a challenge to get the engine in there.
Is there enough clearance to the rear apron?
Cool idea anyway! I love this project! Keep the updates coming!
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2012, 22:29:00 pm » |
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you need to raise it a few inches, don't think you have accounted for the driver!!!! Only on one side, though... |
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