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benlawrence
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« on: February 19, 2013, 18:47:50 pm »

Ran it up today, no issues, just need to whip the heads off, stick the JPM springs in and get it in the car.   Grin Grin

im a happy man

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 18:54:01 pm »

Sweet  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 18:59:43 pm »


 -cool. Well done Ben.. bet you cant wait....

 You'll have to post some vid, cos we're not likely to see it in the flesh..  Sad  ?
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 19:01:01 pm »

Not this year im afraid  Wink

Well pleased with it, its my first ida motor, so we'll see how it goes, its nothing too lairy.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 19:01:46 pm »

Not Drag Day  Shocked Huh Grin
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benlawrence
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 19:02:46 pm »

Not Drag Day  Shocked Huh Grin

Definately not  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2013, 01:23:56 am »

Savage. .. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2013, 20:17:05 pm »

seems very responsive!

care to share the spec?
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 22:13:50 pm »

yes andy no bother, nothing serious just a lot of off the shelf parts.

as41 case with all the usual stuff

82x94
cb super race crank
cb 5.5" super race rods
aa pistons/liners tru arc keepers
cb flywheel
stage 2 clutch exedy/daikin disk.
ks main bearings clevite rod
web cam 86c
cb forged 1.4 rockers
jaycee pushrod tubes
manton cromo p/rods
cb 28mm lightweight 2 piece lifters.
cb s/c cam gears
cb wedge ports 44x37 flycut 44cc chambers
10.2-1 comp.

26mm shadeck oil pump
cheapo set of italian ida's on big beef mani's
speedshop 1" 5/8 exhaust system.

thats most of it.

new arrival due next week so im not going to have any time in the short term to get the motor in and on the dyno, although to be fair its the least of my worries. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 06:18:28 am »

Well done mate! Look forward to hearing and seeing it sometime soon!

You have got me going with an ida motor now!
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2013, 22:09:47 pm »

So im trying to sneak a few hours in the garage to get the motor in the car, its a bit off a mess at the minute  Angry    I'd like to have it in and ready for the dyno in a couple of weeks, better start clearing the damn garage out!!!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 16:38:40 pm »

like my shed and garage lol
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 16:57:18 pm »

Washing machines do make the best engine stands.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 20:40:42 pm »

Haha the wife doesnt seem to think so, its in the car and running now, plus i cleared my garage out  Shocked just got a couple of small jobs and some wiring to finish then ill hit the dyno in the next few weeks if the weather picks up, currently blowing a gale here and due more snow  Angry

this is how it sits as of yesterday, excuse the rubbish phone quality.

i had a set of straight cuts on the shelf so i used them, christ they are LOUD, i hate them. Shocked
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2013, 22:21:19 pm »

Its been a long wait to the start of the season here, but i had the best day racing today, My car has stock gearbox and axles, and to me, is on shoestring, i ran drove the car to the strip, did a few dial in passes, beat my pb of 13.82 on the first run, then the numbers kept falling, after my 4th run i'd managed 13.002 so i was desperate to do just one more to see if i could crack a 12.

Final run of the day, i let the tyre pressures on the crappy 185 van radials (ten years old) down to 18psi, and went out and ran a 12.9 @101 on a crappy airstrip, no prept tracks for us.

Mega happy with such a great result (for me) and i took a trophy for quickest of the day too ( you could argue that the competition wasnt that quick) but ill take it  Wink

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2013, 22:25:21 pm »

rubbish start, i think my 60 ft was 2.2, but you get the idea.

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2013, 22:36:57 pm »

Awesome work Ben! If you can shave a couple of tenths of the 60ft, you can knock a lot more off the overall ET - it's generally reckoned that a tenth off the 60ft is worth 2 tenths at the top of the track, and I've had a 1600 getting sub 2.0's... Wink
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2013, 22:43:37 pm »

Cheers neil, my old engine on a completely unchanged car was 1.9's, im just doing the best i can with no budget and going through the line in 3rd lol
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2013, 23:46:43 pm »

I know all about the low budget thing, my wife lost her job due to company insolvency on Friday (which was supposed to be payday! Shocked) - I'm collecting cheap stock boxes at the moment as my race car fund is suddenly re-named the household bills fund and Asda don't do close ratio drag boxes... Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 00:14:22 am »

welcome to my world, my wife is off on maternity and ive an extra mouth to feed , but to be fair, thats no complaint  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 11:06:21 am »

Well done Ben !!  Smiley I think that's a great achievement mate. Built and run on a  budget and still nailing a 12 !! How cool is that  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 13:08:56 pm »

Thanks shane, it would be really nice to have a "built" box, something i simply cannot afford any time soon, infact definately not this year, im only using 3 gears  Undecided over the 1/4 the ratios and the big rear van radials make the gearing so looooooooooong, but hey ho, im so happy it ran a 12, theres more in it, i jetted it up at the track as i'd not been back to the dyno since the manifold work and vent change, i erred on the side of caution and its definately rich, I'll give the engine a full service and then drive it over to see the boys and get a final tune on it. Best bit was being able to drive it home, knowing i'd got the number and it wasnt broken  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2013, 00:05:20 am »


Well done Ben!! Tom told me today...we're all chuffed for you! Seems like only yesterday when you got that car bet you're glad you held onto it!

Get a box and some sticky tyres and you'll knock another second off that time!!

Keep it up!!

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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2013, 21:18:03 pm »


Well done Ben!! Tom told me today...we're all chuffed for you! Seems like only yesterday when you got that car bet you're glad you held onto it!

Get a box and some sticky tyres and you'll knock another second off that time!!

Keep it up!!

Ian Clark
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Hi Ian thanks  Smiley    Funnily enough it only seems like yesterday that me and Tom used to finish work and come to the workshop and have pizza with you Lee and Jay, great times, i guess they left their mark, I always thought there was no way i'd ever be able to afford/build an ida street car, but i guess i was never in a rush.  Funnily enough the van radials are ones that Deano put on an old set of american eagle wide 5 fuch copies years back, i remember him saying "ill get you a pair of burnout tyres" haha.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 21:34:16 pm »

Got a chance to fire it on to the rollers today, Did two quick pulls and immediately a fuel pressure issue has risen its ugly head.

Prior to finding this issue heres the numbers so far.
 


There was no real point in trying to tune it, so ill have to go through the fuel system, as soon as it comes on cam fuel pressure just drops away afr's were hitting 13's at around 6k rpm, called it quits but overall im extremely happy with it, i need to do some midrange tuning too and smooth it out but that can wait until i have sorted the fueling issue.

I must add previous to this i ran the motor on the rollers (my dyno time is free Wink) this was with 37mm vents f7's 160 mains 200 airs, standard bigbeef manifolds that were only partially match ported up, it made 160bhp and 151 tq. 28 degs advance.

I then had a friend weld the manifolds right up, then i spent the guts of a week of evenings porting them right up and getting them right, now it has 42mm vents and 175 main (which was a good guess at the track) 200 air  still f7's untouched advance, the work was worth it. Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2013, 21:43:11 pm »

double post, whoops.
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 08:30:23 am »

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 13:12:43 pm »

Good Numbers so far Ben  Grin and good progress !!  What was your pre-set fuel pressure on the ida's and what did it fall too by 6-6200 ?? Be interested to hear about your final jetting too.

Cheers.

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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 13:38:07 pm »

Hi Shane, fuel pressure was set at 5psi @ idle, it dropped as soon as the motor comes on cam, by 6k its at 1psi and afr's are leaning out, i wound it up to 7psi just to see if the gauge was iffy same result, could be something as simple as a bad earth or kink in a fuel line, itll be a simple fix im sure, Im using the Facet red top "works" pump (regulated),Flow rate of 35 gallons per hour with a delivery pressure of 6.5-7.25 Psi. For competition use up to 240 BHP.  So the pump should be more than up to the job, i only have a small pinhole breather in the neck of my tank so i ran it without the cap to see if the tank was vacuuming, same result but at least it ticks an item off the check list.
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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2013, 23:10:00 pm »

I thought IDA's liked fuel pressure about 3.5 PSI??
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