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bang
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« on: September 14, 2013, 10:17:25 am »

hey. i am building a autocraft turbo engine and want to run on methanol. want a oil header in my sump. what size should i use and what in the ideal pre heat temp??

have you guys seen where i can buy one. and are they 12 volt or 230volt??
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 10:33:03 am »

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/23675/10002/-1

Something like this, and I boil the oil to remove the methanol from it, takes an hour or so to get it real clean, then turn it off about 20mins before the 1st pass of the day, the only pain is they are 110volt so I carry a convertor from 240v-110v.

You can also get an aftermarket VW sump heater that goes on the outside and attaches to the sump plate, as sold in cold countries, not tried one for boiling oil yet though

cheers Richie
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 11:10:06 am »

okay thanks.

think i want 2 then and mound tem in serie so 220v should be okay.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 11:47:39 am »

We have LOADS here in norway.... A place called "Hotshop" has a load of NoS/original heaters  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 19:19:35 pm »

hey. i am building a autocraft turbo engine and want to run on methanol. want a oil header in my sump. what size should i use and what in the ideal pre heat temp??

have you guys seen where i can buy one. and are they 12 volt or 230volt??

Hi

My mill is also on meth  Grin
The first season I was running without heater. Every cold start I had allot of Methanol in the oil resulting in terrible wear.
Now I'm running a 1000W 230V heater.
I'm heating the oil (8 Liter) up to 100°C  which takes depending to ambient temperature from 25 to 60 min.
When the engine fires up the oil heats the parts quickly and is dropping about 20-25°C.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 19:58:18 pm »

mexx where did you get your heater?
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 21:08:17 pm »

mexx where did you get your heater?

Hi

It's a replacement part for a household dish washer. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 21:10:03 pm »

I've made my own from glow plugs worked very well on 12v
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 14:12:55 pm »

I've made my own from glow plugs worked very well on 12v

Dear Andy

How much power does it have? Huh
Because mine has 1000W which is really not to much that would be over 80 amps @ 12V ?

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 14:19:06 pm »

Any pictures Mexx? I thought a dish washer heater was basically a long cable and way to big to fit in sump.

Thanks!

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 14:36:17 pm »

I thought a dish washer heater was basically a long cable and way to big to fit in sump.
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Dear Kalle

The long cable is basically for connecting the dish washer to the power supply. Grin Grin

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 14:39:10 pm »

I thought a dish washer heater was basically a long cable and way to big to fit in sump.
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Dear Kalle

The long cable is basically for connecting the dish washer to the power supply. Grin Grin

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2013, 14:49:29 pm »

I thought a dish washer heater was basically a long cable and way to big to fit in sump.
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Dear Kalle

The long cable is basically for connecting the dish washer to the power supply. Grin Grin

MeXX

Dam!! Now you tell.. I tried my best to fit that dam thing inside my sump but gave up after a while and ended up using a 300W Defa one instead. Works excellent since I`m never in a rush.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2013, 15:18:55 pm »

I've made my own from glow plugs worked very well on 12v

Dear Andy

How much power does it have? Huh
Because mine has 1000W which is really not to much that would be over 80 amps @ 12V ?

MeXX

Hi Mexx

an extract from my build thread  below

i did a bit of testing on the heater pockets to see if the heat was less concentrated at the tip and seams to work ok took about 30 mins to warm 1L of oil to 90 deg C







thought i would weld in the heater pockets and give it a try



20amps needed for all 4 plugs



and in one hour we have just over 90 Deg C and 50 Deg C in the oil feed line



so looks like that works Smiley

cheers andy
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