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vwhelmot
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Poly bushes are no good.
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January 04, 2015, 17:14:17 pm »
I bought my cal looker back and wondered why the handling and steering was horrible. I only drove it for about six miles before I stripped the car completely and this is what I found. It was very dangerous , wandered all over the road and very hard to keep in a straight line. I will be buying a set of needle bearings and seals. I wonder how the hell it vanished and serves as a warning. Check yours if you have any!
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leec
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Posts: 2599
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 04, 2015, 18:13:43 pm »
I would be changing the one on the steering box also
Lee
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vwhelmot
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Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 04, 2015, 18:40:01 pm »
I will definitely. Who thought they were a good idea?!
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Jim M
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Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 04, 2015, 22:04:59 pm »
Are the needle bearings available?
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vwhelmot
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Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 04, 2015, 22:53:12 pm »
Shouldn't be a problem.
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javabug
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WHAT'S UP WID DA BOOM BOOM???
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 01:28:59 am »
I used to despise poly, but with age sometimes comes better understanding. You need to use the
proper lube
with poly, and it makes all the difference. Normal moly lubes are petroleum based, will attack the polyurethane and cause failure as seen in your car.
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Mike H.
Sven was right.
vwhelmot
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Posts: 687
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 06:02:57 am »
All the other bushes are ok. So why just the one if it's a case of wrong lubrication? Don't think it's that that has caused this.
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leec
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Posts: 2599
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 09:11:06 am »
I would also check the beam. I am guessing its a narrowed aftermarket one
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vwhelmot
Hero Member
Posts: 687
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 10:14:09 am »
The beam is the original vw one I narrowed fifteen years ago. The arm seems to be fine but I will check everything .
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Donny B.
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Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 16:37:27 pm »
I probably have 50k miles on mine with polyurethane bushings and no issues what so ever. I greased them liberally with Valvoline grease and have had no problems.
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Dominick Luppino
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Posts: 323
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm »
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
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BeetleBug
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Posts: 2836
Snabba grabben...
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 21:57:54 pm »
Quote from: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
Mr Luppino, is there anything you can do to help us Norwegians with parts from Bugpack?
Best rgs
Karl
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vwhelmot
Hero Member
Posts: 687
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 22:09:13 pm »
Quote from: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.
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Dominick Luppino
Sr. Member
Posts: 323
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 22:19:50 pm »
Quote from: BeetleBug on January 05, 2015, 21:57:54 pm
Quote from: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
Mr Luppino, is there anything you can do to help us Norwegians with parts from Bugpack?
Best rgs
Karl
You can try a company called Hot Shop, they are in Norway or here in the US is Pierside Parts, they ship world wide.
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Dominick Luppino
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Posts: 323
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 05, 2015, 22:22:52 pm »
Quote from: vwhelmot on January 05, 2015, 22:09:13 pm
Quote from: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.
Ok......The only time I have seen bushing fail is when either the wrong grease was used or they were improperly installed. Good luck.
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andy198712
Hero Member
Posts: 1063
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 06, 2015, 22:17:01 pm »
Do you still need to pump it through via the nipples regularly with these inserts or is that for the benefit of the needle bearings?
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HERB
Newbie
Posts: 43
Re: Poly bushes are no good.
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January 09, 2015, 17:04:47 pm »
Quote from: vwhelmot on January 05, 2015, 22:09:13 pm
Quote from: Dominick Luppino on January 05, 2015, 21:22:06 pm
Javabug is correct, it is not recommended to use Petroleum Grease, it attacks the Urethane, we here at Prothane only recommend using the Grease we provide with our Bushing kits, it is a water-proof, non-melting Teflon and is formulated to seal out water and to lubricate under the most adverse conditions. You can order it from any of our dealers listed on our Web Site, here are the part numbers,
19-1750 (3) 1/2oz packs
19-1751 (1) 14oz tube for a grease gun.
The wrong grease has not caused this bush to simply disappear ? It's gone, the complete sleeve is not there.
The other three are still there so I'm wondering what could have caused this.
Is it possible that the outer lip came off and the rest of the bushing "walked" in towards the center of the beam?
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