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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #90 on:
March 05, 2019, 14:59:14 pm »
Quote from: vwhelmot on March 04, 2019, 23:26:06 pm
Sounds brilliant. Get some pictures up then.
How bout these
Hard to capture the warpage on camera but there's plenty of it too. I should never have sold you the java unless you agreed to do the welding for me
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Last Edit: March 06, 2019, 11:24:04 am by baz
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #91 on:
June 04, 2019, 09:22:40 am »
3 years in the making, it better last longer than a dyno session this time
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #92 on:
June 16, 2019, 08:26:27 am »
Well I was majorly pissed off with the welding on the 69 and I wasn't prepared to spend more money on a paint job while the metal work wasn't up to standard. I had a rough past year too which meant I'd no time to do ay work fixing the body.
So I started looking for a donor body I could put all the parts I had collected to good use, late last year I spotted this on craigslist, it looked perfect and the price was a steal so I went ahead and bought it.
Turned out better than I expected, never welded or crashed and 100% original paint and panels. Original 1600 sp motor runs like a champ too.
Got the burners fitted and adjustable front beam and drove it like this for a few months.
Pulled the body off last month to get stuff ready for the engine transplant. All wiring and plumbing now done and engine is sitting on the stand ready to be fitted.
Waiting on some paint to dry on the front suspension then I can roll the restored pan under the body and fit it back together. Hopefully be attempting to fire it up sometime this week.
Only noticed the odometer reading the other day, hopefully a good omen
The 69 body is still here, I'm gonna fix it up as time allows.
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Last Edit: June 16, 2019, 08:36:17 am by baz
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vwhelmot
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #93 on:
June 16, 2019, 08:48:35 am »
The 69 body didn’t need much though?!
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #94 on:
June 16, 2019, 08:52:26 am »
Quote from: vwhelmot on June 16, 2019, 08:48:35 am
The 69 body didn’t need much though?!
It didn't until the fuckwit I paid to fix it made it worse. I wasn't parting 5 grand + for a paint job until the issues are fixed. I've got most of the drivers side straight again now, still plenty of work needed to get it right.
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #95 on:
June 16, 2019, 09:16:54 am »
The green car = amazing
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #96 on:
June 16, 2019, 09:41:16 am »
Quote from: leec on June 16, 2019, 09:16:54 am
The green car = amazing
Its like a new car underneath
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Last Edit: June 16, 2019, 11:08:22 am by baz
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #97 on:
June 16, 2019, 10:34:19 am »
It's like you had a time machine
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #98 on:
June 17, 2019, 21:37:00 pm »
Getting close
Stainless Steel for return line, aluminium for flexi to filter
Redone the stainless lines inside the tunnel as they were a mess.
Gonna test the fuel system today, praying there's no leaks
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Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 08:47:32 am by baz
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #99 on:
June 18, 2019, 18:15:19 pm »
Did you repaint the chassis? What product did you use?
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #100 on:
June 18, 2019, 18:26:23 pm »
Yeah it's jotun 87, same stuff as epoxy 121 I think
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Stevo_L
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #101 on:
June 18, 2019, 21:00:09 pm »
looking good! i love green cars
dont forget the nut on your gearbox mounts
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #102 on:
June 19, 2019, 18:05:08 pm »
Thanks Steve, gearbox now secured!
Hopefully tomorrow will be the day it finally makes some noise
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andy198712
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #103 on:
June 22, 2019, 19:54:03 pm »
what are those injectors from? (i have the same manifolds.... )
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #104 on:
June 23, 2019, 06:40:58 am »
I don't know tbh I got the full kit from speedshop.
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #105 on:
June 23, 2019, 08:09:25 am »
So I got the engine in and all hooked up, had to get a hydraulic hose company to make a fuel line as the stainless steel I bought still hasn't arrived.
Spent the day yesterday trying to get it running, managed to run for 5 seconds, suffering from slow cranking so I swapped starters and problem persists so I'm suspecting a worn bushing.
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #106 on:
June 23, 2019, 12:13:29 pm »
The gearbox earth wasn't earthing on the rubber on the mount, put a washer behind the strap to fill the void and voilà
https://youtu.be/4waSY4QoAEI
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Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 13:02:45 pm by baz
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #107 on:
June 23, 2019, 15:45:44 pm »
Top job, can't believe you let that car get wet though
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Neil Davies
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #108 on:
June 23, 2019, 17:17:31 pm »
That is a really clean shell - is it original paint?
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #109 on:
June 23, 2019, 19:13:12 pm »
Quote from: leec on June 23, 2019, 15:45:44 pm
Top job, can't believe you let that car get wet though
Fucking Irish summers eh
I wasn't gonna sit indoors all day when I was this close, I got wet too if it makes it better.
All good so far no leaks or worrying noises, the ecu is back to square one though as far as mapping goes, dunno where the map from the dyno session went? I'm at the end of my capabilities with it now and I need to get help to tune it. Couple of little things to finish and I'm on the road at last.
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #110 on:
June 23, 2019, 19:15:13 pm »
Quote from: Neil Davies on June 23, 2019, 17:17:31 pm
That is a really clean shell - is it original paint?
Yeah all og paint unbelievably clean, been in a garage since 1994 spent its life near San Francisco.
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #111 on:
June 23, 2019, 19:44:06 pm »
Quote from: baz on June 23, 2019, 19:13:12 pm
Quote from: leec on June 23, 2019, 15:45:44 pm
Top job, can't believe you let that car get wet though
Fucking Irish summers eh
I wasn't gonna sit indoors all day when I was this close, I got wet too if it makes it better.
All good so far no leaks or worrying noises, the ecu is back to square one though as far as mapping goes, dunno where the map from the dyno session went? I'm at the end of my capabilities with it now and I need to get help to tune it. Couple of little things to finish and I'm on the road at last.
Might be worth offering to build engines for the previous builder
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #112 on:
June 23, 2019, 20:10:36 pm »
Quote from: leec on June 23, 2019, 19:44:06 pm
Quote from: baz on June 23, 2019, 19:13:12 pm
Quote from: leec on June 23, 2019, 15:45:44 pm
Top job, can't believe you let that car get wet though
Fucking Irish summers eh
I wasn't gonna sit indoors all day when I was this close, I got wet too if it makes it better.
All good so far no leaks or worrying noises, the ecu is back to square one though as far as mapping goes, dunno where the map from the dyno session went? I'm at the end of my capabilities with it now and I need to get help to tune it. Couple of little things to finish and I'm on the road at last.
Might be worth offering to build engines for the previous builder
No chance, we'll have switched to electric by the time I've another one built
Anyways still need to see how this one survives before I can call it a success.
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #113 on:
June 26, 2019, 19:56:28 pm »
Well it still hasn't blown up which is good
Got a base map sorted thanks to Dave at bugbitz, gotta love dave his work is top notch and he teaches you what he's doing as he's doing it, he fixed all the machining errors on my case and cylinders too before I built the motor. I'm gonna dump the oil and check valve lash in the morning and hopefully take it for a drive
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #114 on:
July 12, 2019, 18:10:12 pm »
Hi Baz,
Any updates?
Also what size tyres are you running on the burners? Make?
Lee
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #115 on:
July 13, 2019, 06:11:18 am »
I haven't had a chance to work on it lately, provisionally booked in for a rr session but I haven't been given a date yet.
Tires are toyo proxes 165/65 and 205/70. May try a 185 on the front sometime there's plenty of room for them.
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baz
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Posts: 772
Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #116 on:
September 06, 2019, 18:37:20 pm »
Finally collecting the car from the guy I left it with a month ago to sort the mapping. Spoke to him today and he's told me he can't get any power out of it, made 80 fwhp. It's running well, no noises, doesn't overheat, has fuel pressure, injectors were tested, valve lash is right, it's got new spark plugs, brakes aren't binding, so I'm a bit stumped. Max timing is 28 degrees he says it pinks if he gives it any more.
The guy that has been tuning it is a good guy, exactly the sort you want working on your stuff. He knows dta inside out and tunes race cars and rally cars all day every day. His only experience of aircooled vws is tuning formula vee racers so it was his first time trying to tune a hot fuel injected aircooled engine.. He has it running sweet and it sounds great just no power.
Any suggestions please?
I'll post up the maps tomorrow once I get the car home.
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leec
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #117 on:
September 06, 2019, 20:09:28 pm »
If it runs well and sounds great, take it to another rolling road for a power run? That rules out any dyno issue
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baz
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #118 on:
September 06, 2019, 21:26:26 pm »
Quote from: leec on September 06, 2019, 20:09:28 pm
If it runs well and sounds great, take it to another rolling road for a power run? That rules out any dyno issue
Lee
Doubtful it's a dyno issue, this guy is a legit operator and his workshop and machinery are immaculate and in constant use, if there was an issue there he'd know right away.
Same combo apart from 5.5 rods made double that hp last time it ran years ago.
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andy198712
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Re: 69 2276 efi bug
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Reply #119 on:
September 07, 2019, 08:29:10 am »
Compression test? Check the valves are lifting fully?
What are your afr’s like?
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