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« on: April 13, 2016, 12:56:55 pm »

Hi guys,

I am about to get round to the front beam on my 56 bug, I can't decide if I need a 2" narrowed beam or a 4". I do not want the wheels too far in but I do not want the wheels too close to the arches. I guess it depends on which brakes and wheels I decide to run.
Was thinking of CB performance disk brake kit and Gas burner replicas 5" wide I think, or maybe Porsche fuch reps in 4.5" at the front.
Anyone running similar set up that can show me how the wheels sit?

Thanks joel
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2016, 14:46:27 pm »

Decide on wheels/brakes/tires, then mock it up with a stock width beam. Cut what needs to be cut.

Wider = Better.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 22:28:50 pm »



This is with 2" narrowed, dropped spindles, AC Ind discs up front and 5.5 repro Gasburners
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 18:02:56 pm »

nice stance! that looks just right... I just bought a 2" narrowed for my 56, I wanted a little clearance but I wanted to still run shocks, sway bar, etc. and all of that is easily availble for the 2".
I had a 6" on another car and didn't like how the car handled without shocks and sway bar, around town was ok but on the interstate it was terrible.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 20:58:56 pm »

Thanks richierich, that looks lovely any more pics?
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 22:05:52 pm »





Thanks for the kind comments guys. By the way, my tyre sizes are 205/65/15 in the rear and 135/15 in the front.. I was considering narrowing the beam another 2" but can't decide.

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2016, 06:51:25 am »

Hi guys,

I am about to get round to the front beam on my 56 bug, I can't decide if I need a 2" narrowed beam or a 4". I do not want the wheels too far in but I do not want the wheels too close to the arches. I guess it depends on which brakes and wheels I decide to run.
Was thinking of CB performance disk brake kit and Gas burner replicas 5" wide I think, or maybe Porsche fuch reps in 4.5" at the front.
Anyone running similar set up that can show me how the wheels sit?

Thanks joel


Are they genuine oval wings or repos? makes a huge difference to clearance and fit


cheers Richie
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2016, 08:07:08 am »

so you ac industies disc brake kit does widen the track with 1/4th of an inch? that includes the spindles right? Repro gasburners have a lot of different offset values (ET), how much are yours?
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2016, 13:24:04 pm »

so you ac industies disc brake kit does widen the track with 1/4th of an inch? that includes the spindles right? Repro gasburners have a lot of different offset values (ET), how much are yours?

The discs widen the track 1.5"overall so 3/4" per side hence the reason i guess that my 2" narrowed beam doesnt look a great deal narrower than stock.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2016, 19:12:00 pm »

Richie no they most definitely aren't expensive oval wings! They are cheapo repros that came with it
I was considering getting some day mouldings wings maybe the race weight ones, is there much difference?
I have some dropped spindles on there and a stock beam, not sure on the disc brake kit on there to be honest, its a wide five kit maybe empi?
If I put up some pics can you tell me what I have?
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2016, 19:53:49 pm »

Lets have a look and maybe we can tell you what they are
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 21:18:52 pm »

I was considering narrowing the beam another 2" but can't decide.

Why?
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 21:58:14 pm »

Why was I considering it or why can't I decide?
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2016, 00:46:00 am »

Why were you considering? It looks good, if it doesn't foul the fenders I'd call it done.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2016, 07:14:44 am »

Richie no they most definitely aren't expensive oval wings! They are cheapo repros that came with it
I was considering getting some day mouldings wings maybe the race weight ones, is there much difference?
I have some dropped spindles on there and a stock beam, not sure on the disc brake kit on there to be honest, its a wide five kit maybe empi?
If I put up some pics can you tell me what I have?

Only real split and oval wings seem to offer more clearance, the day mouldings wings were really nice but wont give you any extra clearance.

If you run 4.5 fuch you shouldn't need a narrowed beam at all but don't know the offsets on the copies, am sure if you put pics up of your brake kit someone here will know what it is Smiley


cheers Richie
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2016, 12:01:44 pm »

Why were you considering? It looks good, if it doesn't foul the fenders I'd call it done.

Yep I think you're right - you know what it's like though, can't help but keep looking and thinking!
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2016, 18:00:41 pm »

And for the OP my repro 5.5j Gasburners are 35mm offset.

4.5j fuchs are a 42mm offset.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 10:44:43 am »

regarding the wings / front fenders, anyone any experience with the KlassikFab fenders? They have specific split beetle and oval beetle fenders, do they offer more clearance?

https://klassicfab.com/klassicfab1/en/12-type-1-beetle

their fit and quality is normally quite good as I was told.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 19:29:24 pm »

regarding the wings / front fenders, anyone any experience with the KlassikFab fenders? They have specific split beetle and oval beetle fenders, do they offer more clearance?

https://klassicfab.com/klassicfab1/en/12-type-1-beetle

their fit and quality is normally quite good as I was told.

They are stock replacement fenders so the clearances should remain the same.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2016, 00:59:42 am »




My tyre sizes are 205/65/15 in the rear

What model Firestone tire is that? Did you paint the white lettering yourself, or did they come like that.? I've been looking for a Firestone with cool white lettering.
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2016, 17:10:25 pm »




My tyre sizes are 205/65/15 in the rear

What model Firestone tire is that? Did you paint the white lettering yourself, or did they come like that.? I've been looking for a Firestone with cool white lettering.

They are Firehawk GT's and i did them myself with one of those Silver tyre paint pens whilst bored one afternoon!

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