clutch problems

[nicolas]

Fabs (speedwell) is fitting a gearbox in his bug, but it doesn't seem to work.

i have helped him a hand, but we stranded at the point were the car can't be unclutched. the cable was tightened, but it wasn't enough. the car was standing on jackstands and was able to start, gears can be changed when the wheels are spinning, they also gain momentum through the gears. the clutch pedal has no effect. when the wheels are locked by the handbrake to avoid the spinning, he can't change gears. the engine stops to run when put in reverse.

to me it seems that the clutch is engaged and can't be pressed in to free the clutch disc. but the tension on the cable is allready sensible. this is a non guided clutch and there is no ring on the clutch which was bought new (pins removed when fitted)

i have only fitted a non guided clutch once and i haven't had this problem, so i am out of ideas. hope someone can point us in a good direction to solve this. thanks

[richie]

 this is a non guided clutch and there is no ring on the clutch which was bought new (pins removed when fitted)

Nicolas

So its a swingaxle gearbox without guide tube for release bearing? if so clutch needs ring on it to work.

cheers Richie

[speedwell]

nicolas ,  the clucht have a ring on it   it's on the 1200cc that the clutch don't have the ring , because the other gearbox was a guided one

[Peter]

seems like a collapsed guide in the tunnel?

[richie]

nicolas ,  the clucht have a ring on it   it's on the 1200cc that the clutch don't have the ring , because the other gearbox was a guided one

Fabs

is it a new gearbox? if so does it have a longer clutch arm than the old one?


cheers Richie

[Martin S.]

Whenever I drive a car with a good clutch, I kinda thank the lord 

[LGK]

Hi Fabs & Nicolas,

Check if the bearing in the flywheelbolt is spinning,make sure the top of the primary shaft is not stuck in the bearing or maybe it's just to long,(max = 15mm when measuring from the bellhousing to top of primary shaft)
Sometimes the bearing get damaged when trying to fit the engine in...

Understanding you are able to change gears on the jacks,then you won't be able to "unclutch" whatever you try with the clutchcable,it seems there is your problem.

good luck Steve

[nicolas]

sorry for the confusion on the ring…

no problem in the chassis, the tube is OK, there seems to be quite a bit of leverage, i can't see the arm before me, so Fabs needs to shime in,

and Steve, i think we need to pull the engine and start looking at what you suggest. i also think the problem is somewhere inside the bell housing.

Fabs when do we meet? 

[speedwell]

sorry for the confusion on the ring…

no problem in the chassis, the tube is OK, there seems to be quite a bit of leverage, i can't see the arm before me, so Fabs needs to shime in,

and Steve, i think we need to pull the engine and start looking at what you suggest. i also think the problem is somewhere inside the bell housing.

Fabs when do we meet? 

when you want nico ;-)