Dyno results

[Martin Greaves]

Yes what he is not telling is that he has also got a turbo.

Have you not Roman.

[Roman]

Yes what he is not telling is that he has also got a turbo.

Have you not Roman.

Yes I have a VW turbo now.
I have seen the light in the end of the tunnel!
It is a -01 Passat 1.8T! 
I must say that my bug is a lot faster and it is normally aspirated.

[Roman]

Or men with long hair

Glad you have sen the light at the end of the tunnel Roman

cheers richie

I'm half bald!

[ESH]

I'm half bald!

You can make up in aerodynamics what you lack in power, and buff your head on the dyno at the same time. 

[Neil Davies]

Interesting reading about power losses and dyno readings - my old 2276 IDA motor was dyno'd by John Maher when it ran 48IDFs at 187.5 at the flywheel. I bought it, put the IDAs on it and had it set up on a Mustang rolling road and it came out with 129 at the wheels. It ran a 12.09 @ 109mph in a 1640lbs car, so I know it wasn't short on power by that much! Can't see how you can lose nearly 60hp through the gearbox...

[Roman]

60 hp power loss is impossible.
Energy can't be destroyed or created. The 60 hp power loss would be heat if it isn't turned into acceleration. The oil in your tranny would have been cooked if you had a 60 hp loss.

[Steve D.]

I know the motor that made the 198/188- after a short jet change it made 204hp/199tq.  Peak power was at 6k, peak torque was at 4.5k, it was making 150tq @2.5k  This was all with 91oct. California gas, fan belt installed, and REAL muffler (Walker Dynomax)- no coat hanger mufflers here!  It has more in it, just have to find it.  The car drives super mellow until you put the hammer down, and cruises all over at 70+mph.  Even with the Vegas heat, over 100 miles were put on the odo. over the weekend in Vegas.  Fun time, hope it shows up next year.

[ESH]

...the car drives super mellow until you put the hammer down, and cruises all over at 70+mph...

 

[quickkafer]

Wow!  Great to see the following on the otherside of the world!   

I'm Scott Faivre of German-Pride.com, the guy who put on the inaugural Dyno Session in the Desert.  Thanks for all the great comments!  It makes the countless hours I put into the event all worth it! 

The dyno we used was a Dynojet 248C with some software upgrades that makes it valid until 1400 HP or so.  We should be safe for a couple of years.   The dyno is not isolated in a "lab type environment" so it uses and measures ambient air temps.  Vegas's elevation is 2165 ft above see level and the air has very little humidity.  The naturally aspirated cars could suffer from it.

We were to have 9 N/A cars, but 5 of them couldn't make it.  Shawn Geers car was to be one of them!    EVERYONE wanted to see that car on the dyno!

N/A is definitely fading on the West Coast of the USA.  The cal-look and nostalgia guys like it, but the racers are all slowly becoming Turbo EFI guys.  The East Coast of the USA still has a lot of N/A cars, but I would think that it will only be a matter of time before they start going over to the otherside.

I was very pleased with the way the inaugural event went off.  Madson's 753 HP is a stout number that will be hard to top!  I have an article on German-Pride.com with all of the dyno sheets, etc. from the event.  I'll expand the article with motor stats in about a week.  (I need time to catch up and it's my daughter's birthday party this weekend.)

What do you guys think of those bitchin' trophies made from flywheels?

Hope to see you guys in Vegas in 2008!

Scott Faivre

[BeetleBug]

2276cc Specifications

Autocraft engine case, 12mm head studs
82mm BUGPACK wedgemated crank
Pauter Aluminum rods 5.400
94mm Wiseco Pistons w/J&E wrist pins
Heads Up Performance steel billet cam   It’s like an FK-87
CB Comp E heads reworked by Heads Up Performance, 48x38 w/K-800 springs
9.5 to 1 comp.
Berg 1.4 rockers
Berg 1 ¾ header with a custom made duel 2 ½” bullet mufflers
MSD Dist & 7 AL-2 box with a 3 stage retard box
Custom made Nitrous system made by Dave Perkins & I using a NOS Pro Sportsman fogger kit modified
Two Holley Black fuel pumps one for the engine, one for the Nitrous system using ½ line to the regulators.

340hp plus at the flywheel   315 at the Dyno Day to the rear tires running very rich.

Thank you for sharing! May I ask which barrels you`re using?

[BeetleBug]

Wow!  Great to see the following on the otherside of the world!   

I'm Scott Faivre of German-Pride.com, the guy who put on the inaugural Dyno Session in the Desert.  Thanks for all the great comments!  It makes the countless hours I put into the event all worth it! 

The dyno we used was a Dynojet 248C with some software upgrades that makes it valid until 1400 HP or so.  We should be safe for a couple of years.   The dyno is not isolated in a "lab type environment" so it uses and measures ambient air temps.  Vegas's elevation is 2165 ft above see level and the air has very little humidity.  The naturally aspirated cars could suffer from it.

We were to have 9 N/A cars, but 5 of them couldn't make it.  Shawn Geers car was to be one of them!    EVERYONE wanted to see that car on the dyno!

N/A is definitely fading on the West Coast of the USA.  The cal-look and nostalgia guys like it, but the racers are all slowly becoming Turbo EFI guys.  The East Coast of the USA still has a lot of N/A cars, but I would think that it will only be a matter of time before they start going over to the otherside.

I was very pleased with the way the inaugural event went off.  Madson's 753 HP is a stout number that will be hard to top!  I have an article on German-Pride.com with all of the dyno sheets, etc. from the event.  I'll expand the article with motor stats in about a week.  (I need time to catch up and it's my daughter's birthday party this weekend.)

What do you guys think of those bitchin' trophies made from flywheels?

Hope to see you guys in Vegas in 2008!

Scott Faivre

Very nice trophies and I would like to come over next year - will you have a long distance trophy  I`m looking forward to read about the different engines that got dynoed.

Best rgs
BB

[stealth67vw]

I bet Shawn is making way over 300 N/A. 10.58 second time out? That car just sounds nasty.

[ugly duckling]

right on steve D. a deffenet congrats to ya. not bad for a 91oct and low 9.3 comp and small dune buggy cam. i gusse you could rasie your comp to the 12 mark or even to the 15 mark. but what fun would that be. if you cant drivem up and down the 405 and the 22 and thorue the streets of oc. what good is it right? thats what you call a aunist to god (real NA crap gas street car period!!) keep up the great work. not bad for a young wipersnaper  . UD.

[ugly duckling]

and also i wanted to say thanks to scott faivre for putting on the dyno event good job sir.tim and i will make it next year we just cut it to close this year. we made it to the track but just barly. have a good one.  UD.

[Dominick Luppino]

The cyl. on my 2276 are custom made Autocraft, 94mm bore 98mm top, extra thick were it counts.

[BeetleBug]

The cyl. on my 2276 are custom made Autocraft, 94mm bore 98mm top, extra thick were it counts.

Now that`s some interesting info right there - again thanks for sharing. If only those Autocrafts cylinders was available over the counter. I like the idea of having a streetable engine that turns into a hard core race engine by pushing a button. 

Best rgs
BB

[quickkafer]

Forgive the delay, but I've got the official results of the event all up on my site now.  I also compiled a video of some shots and video clips from the event.  Registered members who are logged in, can view the video HERE.  If you are not logged in, you'll get an error message.

I still get goosebumps listening to the sound of these cars turnin' 9 Grand on the dyno!

SIMPLY AWESOME!!!

The return of the Fast Fiat is on there too!  And of course, Eric Madson's record setting 753 HP pull!

Enjoy!

Scott Faivre

[BeetleBug]

Thanks Scott! Of all the cars on the video the one that really impresses me is the Devils Hot Rod. It sounds like he is reving that thing like a Formula 1 engine  Eric Madsons 753hp is also crazy - very impressive. Worlds most powerful VW!

Best rgs
BB

[quickkafer]

The only question is... "Will we see an 800 HP VW in 2008?" 

What's really neat is that the 2007 PRA Pro Mod Champion, Eric Calabrese (aka Red Baron), got up to 622HP before he spun his tires on the dyno rollers and smoked them!  If you look at his dyno chart, you can see that too!  I wonder how much HP he is truly making?

And now, something from the mouths of babes...  When my 7 year old daughter saw the Red Baron go up in smoke, her exact quote was this... "Daddy!  He did just like the T-shirt design!" 

And for your reference...



Ya gotta love kids!

Scott Faivre

[BeetleBug]

You know Scott - we have a blind man over here that builds some powerful VW engines. He dynoed his street driven VW to a whopping 727hp... maybe he will be the first to break the 800hp barrier

BB

[richie]

You know Scott - we have a blind man over here that builds some powerful VW engines. He dynoed his street driven VW to a whopping 727hp... maybe he will be the first to break the 800hp barrier

BB

is the bucket in case of a water leak

Kalle,did they get this car to work properly yet at the track?
cheers richie,uk

[Rune]

Dont think so, I have never seen it run a full 1/4 mile successfully.

[BeetleBug]

Best run is a low 10 in Sweden - seems like it is a hard for them to get that monster to run properly on a track.

I do believe the bucket is for all the oil he spilled when he tested the Georotor pump he is holding in his hand........

BB

[quickkafer]

You know Scott - we have a blind man over here that builds some powerful VW engines. He dynoed his street driven VW to a whopping 727hp... maybe he will be the first to break the 800hp barrier

BB

VERY COOL!  I wonder how many pounds of boost he was running?  Mike Scott's Pewter 55 Oval was only running 29-30 lbs when he made 515 HP with a muffler on his street driven car.  I'd love to see 45lbs+ dialed in and see what kind of crazy HP numbers he'd make!

Scott Faivre