VW Racing In Europe?

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

I have Been Enjoying al the Pictures posted of the European Drag Events But I have A Question  I have Noticed that in a lot of the Video clips and pictures of DDD5 and EBI 1  That there are also V8's Racing?  when they have a VW Event is it not just VW's? or are the Events Combined With other  Events that are taking place at the same Drag Strip the same Day. Just Wondering  it's alway Nice to see a VW give a V8 an Ass Whoopin

[Frank LUX]

Hi Shubee,

DasDragDay is a combined Event so V8's and Ricers aswell, BUT NO V8'S at EBI...

Frank

[benssp]

Due to the small amount of VW's that race proffessionaly in europe, you will mostly find that they will be in their own class at a larger event mostly dominated by V8s

In the UK, MSA(dragracing regulations governing body) racing meets will only permit 'legal' race cars run on that day

Some VW shows wil run a days Run What Ya Brung on one day and MSA classes the next

To make it worth them having a round of racing there, V8 classes will also be invited to make it worth while applyimg for the permit

Das Drag Day hosted the finals of the street eliminator in germany but was mostly dominated by the VW's(read all about it in the latest UltraVW

[Berger]

Next year there will be no V8`s at Scandinavian Cal-look Classic (SCC) in Norway either, just two whole days of VW dragracing!
We were tired of the V8 people who didn`t give any priority to us, so we threw them out... 

[Udo]

Hi Berger
That's a good idea  . We must have some more racecars there from all over Europe !!

@ shubee2 Here you can find pictures of both , V8 and beetles  http://1on1-motorsports.de/mambo45/component/option,com_pictool/Itemid,57/?WHICH=ddd07

Udo

[Berger]

Yes Udo, that`s what we hope for! And we hope to see you and your fantastic car again there next year too

[Bewitched666]

Dragracing in holland is in kids shoes
You have a track in drachten where they race professionally but its more v-8 related.
I only know 2 guys that race there with beetles and they are Udo Becker and Robert Jong(or de Jong).

At vw beetle events they have some sprints but not according to any rules of the NHRa or DHRA or others.
Mostly its a sprint on some abandoned street with no saftey meassures at all( wont race on that even if they put a gun on my head )

Now you have a select group of guys who are into the old callook and they are a bit into dragracing but that group is way to small for a all vw beetle class.

And dutch people in general arent that car minded like the germans,belgians,britsh or americans to name a few country's.
Mostly when something is out on the way of trends(carwise then) the dutch pick up that trend when the rest of the world moved on already to a newer trend.But this has alot to do with the sober kind of thinking here.

But i hope now that you have the EBI and dragracing is taking off that there will be more cars.
And the other thing i think that keeps peops from racing is the high prices of parts

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

Hi Berger
That's a good idea  . We must have some more racecars there from all over Europe !!

@ shubee2 Here you can find pictures of both , V8 and beetles  http://1on1-motorsports.de/mambo45/component/option,com_pictool/Itemid,57/?WHICH=ddd07

Udo

Thanks For the Link Udo Great Pictures  it looked like everyone had a lot of Fun

[Udo]

Yes Udo, that`s what we hope for! And we hope to see you and your fantastic car again there next year too

I just wrote the date in my race schedule for next year !!

I think Kobus is the man to organize a trip to your event 

Udo

[Udo]

Dragracing in holland is in kids shoes
You have a track in drachten where they race professionally but its more v-8 related.
I only know 2 guys that race there with beetles and they are Udo Becker and Robert Jong(or de Jong).

At vw beetle events they have some sprints but not according to any rules of the NHRa or DHRA or others.
Mostly its a sprint on some abandoned street with no saftey meassures at all( wont race on that even if they put a gun on my head )

Now you have a select group of guys who are into the old callook and they are a bit into dragracing but that group is way to small for a all vw beetle class.

And dutch people in general arent that car minded like the germans,belgians,britsh or americans to name a few country's.
Mostly when something is out on the way of trends(carwise then) the dutch pick up that trend when the rest of the world moved on already to a newer trend.But this has alot to do with the sober kind of thinking here.

But i hope now that you have the EBI and dragracing is taking off that there will be more cars.
And the other thing i think that keeps peops from racing is the high prices of parts

I wonder each year why there is no street beetle racing in drachten in the streetmachine bracket class ? Only germans from my team

Udo

[Berger]

Yes Udo, that`s what we hope for! And we hope to see you and your fantastic car again there next year too

I just wrote the date in my race schedule for next year !!

I think Kobus is the man to organize a trip to your event 

Udo

Thats GREAT news Udo!! Looking forward to see you on the track at Gardermoen again

Kobus; what do you say, do you take the challenge??

[Udo]

Yes i vote for Kobus to organise the tripp  . The main thing is the ferry trip . From Kiel to Oslo would be the best but very expensive . Kiel to Helisingborg what i did .

Udo

[Berger]

We will make contact with Colorline and try to get an group discount for those who want to go by ferry.
An alternative is to drive through Denmark, less expensive and even faster!

[Bewitched666]

Udo beetle dragracing is in kids shoes here in holland and i really mean baby new born shoes,haha

I think becoz drachten isnt a well know item in the beetle scene here nobody runs on the track.
But i hope that if everything works out that there can be races again on the drachten strip i will try to
get some guys who are active on the keversiteforum to go and race there.

If we can get a lot of guys to race in drachten i may think of joining too.
Then you have dragracing in drachten,EBI and DDD and those are a few more dates that make it worth for me to build a dragracer here in europe.

I race in curacao and the caribbean and i do that a few times a year going to puerto rico,aruba,venezuela,trinidad and more,but never thought of racing here since you dont have a beetle class and for me its not worth it to risk my life sprinting at events like budel.

But i hope now that more are into racing it will take off a bit more,drachten is a official dragtrack so who knows what next year will bring.

[Udo]

Yes , it looks good that next year we have 3 races in Drachten . But if you build a car look for the rules first . That is one main problem here in Europe that most cars are not leagal for Fia or other official races . I see it in Bitburg at the inspection , there are new build cars that never can pass an official inspection . On Dragday for example we have some englisch cars , Kemps and mine who can run official in Superstreet .

Udo

[JeePee/DVK]

Hi Udo,
Is the track in Drachten clean again?
I heard that there where some problems with the track?
Grtz:JeePee.

[Neil Davies]

Yes , it looks good that next year we have 3 races in Drachten . But if you build a car look for the rules first . That is one main problem here in Europe that most cars are not leagal for Fia or other official races . I see it in Bitburg at the inspection , there are new build cars that never can pass an official inspection . On Dragday for example we have some englisch cars , Kemps and mine who can run official in Superstreet .

Udo

Rules in the UK are quite different to the US rules - we seem to be more strict on safety for sure. Roll-cages for example, are a major stumbling block with imported cars. In O/FF you can't compete in an MSA (Motor Sport Association) event without a full 6-point cage. Even Mark Prossers bay panel van has a full cage, even though it doesn't quite meet the 12.99 index (13.50 is bloody close for a housebrick though!). When I left VWDRC the rules stated that a 6 point cage was needed for Pro (12.99 and quicker) and the faster Sportsman cars (14.99 - 12.99) needed a roll bar with rear stays. Most of the DRKC cars have just got a 4 or 5 point bar, even those into the 10s! You've got to either be suicidal or think you're tougher than God to do 10's in a s/a beetle with half a cage!

Funnily enough, the V8's don't need cages until 10.00!

[Udo]

Hi Udo,
Is the track in Drachten clean again?
I heard that there where some problems with the track?
Grtz:JeePee.

Yes , they made the track new and have a confimation for 3 races . We will see what goes on there . Can't wait to drive there again . Drachten and wittstock are the best places to drive . And Bitburg each month  .

Udo

[JeePee/DVK]

Sounds good,maybe I will race there next year.
Are there special regulations for streetcars?
Ore just tüv,APK and thats it.
If got a 4 point harnes and a good helmet.

[Roman]

There rules here in Sweden are 99% NHRA. The big difference between NHRA and SHRA (Swedish NHRA) is that we often have the prevoius years NHRA ruels. The same is for the rest of Scandinavia as we have scavian cups.
NHRA Rules means Roll bar under 11 sek and Cage under 10.

[Bewitched666]

Jeepee look for the rules on the DHRA site.

Where do you get the rules from Udo?

My bug will be according the NHRA rules

[Udo]

NHRA rules are ok . They are the same as in Germany .

Udo

Streetmachine means  lizensplates and a 3. belt min. Rollcage from 11.5 on that is the index of this class but they run ET bracket . You can run slicks also

[JeePee/DVK]

NHRA rules are ok . They are the same as in Germany .

Udo

Streetmachine means  lizensplates and a 3. belt min. Rollcage from 11.5 on that is the index of this class but they run ET bracket . You can run slicks also

Sounds good Udo.
I will ask the clubmembers,if they wil join me to go racing on Drachten.
JeePee.

[Jesse/DVK]

NHRA rules are ok . They are the same as in Germany .

Udo

Streetmachine means  lizensplates and a 3. belt min. Rollcage from 11.5 on that is the index of this class but they run ET bracket . You can run slicks also

Sounds good Udo.
I will ask the clubmembers,if they wil join me to go racing on Drachten.
JeePee.

I will support you JeePee

[Bewitched666]

Will help out then Jeepee and would be great if we can compete with a complete beetle class

[JeePee/DVK]

I looked at DHRA site,but I can not find the prizes we have to pay to race.
If it is 200 Euro's for a weekend,then there will be no beetle at the start I think.

[Udo]

You can find the infos on   www.explosion.nl   . Drachten races are no DHRA events except the street leagle races on some weekends . These are explosion events . You have to pay 180 euros but have 8 qualifyings if the weather is good .

Udo

[Bewitched666]

Serious dragracing comes at a cost Jeepee

[JeePee/DVK]

Serious dragracing comes at a cost Jeepee

But why should I pay so much?
Bitburg is much cheaper,and there are more Volkswagens.
I think it is not strange that there are no streetlegal Volkswagens at Drachten.

[Udo]

Bitburg is the best place , i know 
But if you want serious Dragracing with equal competitors and classes it is better to go to Drachten sometimes . We have now a pro ET class in Germany , that means no 10,9 index 

Udo