EARLY DKP style cars.....(pre-Aronson '63 style)

[Jim Ratto]

hehe no problem 
unfortunately the wheels are from Dr Jeckill, dont want to give them back really 
BTW thanks Jim, means the world to me

add Porsche caps and your car would look alot like Sarge's old '63 Bug. One of my faves of all time. I bet seeing your car will remind Sarge of his '63 

[speedwell]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

[Jim Ratto]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

not quite the look, though I admired that car when it was current.

Think Don Crane's red '67 (pic in KS' new book w/o bumpers), but Java Green and different wheels

[Lee.C]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

That is one COOL car 

[Jim Ratto]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

That is one COOL car 

thanks, now if i can only build that AND my "dream" Cal Look 67

[Lee.C]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc SPG Roller crank motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

That is one COOL car 

thanks, now if i can only build that AND my "dream" Cal Look 67

P.S you may notice a changed a couple of key items in the motor 

[javabug]

Whoa!  What's up with that?  Any more info?

[speedwell]

Whoa!  What's up with that?  Any more info?

3 pm sent 

[speedwell]

old report in volksworld about the the early days

[Jim Ratto]

Another cool pre-cal car 

who's car is this? Very nice

[johnl]

old report in volksworld about the the early days

I just spotted this with a photo of my '63 in the article.  Can anyone direct me in obtaining a copy of this publication?

Thanks,  John

[speedwell]

old report in volksworld about the the early days

I just spotted this with a photo of my '63 in the article.  Can anyone direct me in obtaining a copy of this publication?

Thanks,  John

john it  was in the feb 2001 volksworld mag

email sent

[xavier]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

44 PII??? Here is your chance...Sit down first

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Solex-44-PII-4-Carburetors-Porsche-356-Carrera-904_W0QQitemZ170431279551QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ae7ef1bf

Xavier

[Jøran Larssen]

Still want to build a Java Green "pre-Cal Look" US-spec '67 Bug. Stock Java '67, stock height, but no bumpers or T bars, just open bumper bracket openings left open with grommets, stock moldings, stock window seals w/ brightwork. 356 chrome 5.5" wheels up front with no hubcap and painted drums on 165 Pirelli's and ET Mags in rear on Blue Streaks or Hurst pie crust grooved slicks.

2180cc 912-rod motor, 40 x 35 dual port VW 311 heads, Engle 130, 11:1, stock rockers with 911 adjusters, Solex 44mm PII carbs, Vertex mag, 1-1/2" 4Tuned header, glasspack tucked up under LH of apron with megaphone pipe, early 40HP fan shroud, Crown flywheel, Santana power pulley.

44 PII??? Here is your chance...Sit down first

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Solex-44-PII-4-Carburetors-Porsche-356-Carrera-904_W0QQitemZ170431279551QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ae7ef1bf

Xavier

Wow, and it includes free shipping

[Nico86]

 

[Flow]

This is the BEST thread on this forum 

[alex d]

Back from the depths of the Lounge, the pre-cal topic is back 

Any newcomers to the pre-cal side these past years? Guess my 67 sorta qualifies
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[Sarge]

Two more shameless driveway shots taken around 1969 before the adapters and mags disappeared.  That intake manifold
was "slightly" warped when I purchased it and caused more then it's fair share of grief... most of it, self-inflicted.

[alex d]

Great pics like always Sarge! Is that a stack with no filter?

[Sarge]

Great pics like always Sarge! Is that a stack with no filter?

Hey thanks!  Yep, no filter... looks like lots of stand-off running down the inside of the deck lid, too.
I scored the Zenith and manifold from Uwe's Bug Repair in Fullerton for $75. I vaguely remember
installing the manifold and thinking there was no real need to buy new crush rings, so idle speed
was all over the place; go figure!   The Zenith came off a 356, so the jetting, venturies, emulsion
tubes, etc were all wrong... strike TWO.  Live and learn.

[Jim Ratto]

Sarge's posts about this era are the best on The Lounge!! ("Primitive Pete")

[javabug]

Hey thanks!  Yep, no filter... looks like lots of stand-off running down the inside of the deck lid, too.
I scored the Zenith and manifold from Uwe's Bug Repair in Fullerton for $75. I vaguely remember
installing the manifold and thinking there was no real need to buy new crush rings, so idle speed
was all over the place; go figure!   The Zenith came off a 356, so the jetting, venturies, emulsion
tubes, etc were all wrong... strike TWO.  Live and learn.

The struggle is real!

[Sarge]

Sarge's posts about this era are the best on The Lounge!! ("Primitive Pete")

Thanks, Jim.  I had PLENTY of era-experiences... luckily, most of it's been swept under the carpet!

The struggle is real!
 

 

[Sarge]

I'm looking back at that engine pic... the shinny voltage regulator, generator pulley, and coil bracket in particular.  It's what we did back then when you could buy
a tube of Happich Simichrome for $.75 and spend hours at Hillcrest Park shinning stuff up... ah, the good old days!

[Abadco2]

That Simichrome went the way of the pink glass polish.

[Sarge]

That Simichrome went the way of the pink glass polish.

   ...actually, it's on the shelf in the garage

[Abadco2]

How about going back to where this started. I for one would love to talk about the origin of what became the lasting " LOOK."
To emulate Hot Rods, emphasis on performance, lowering bugs getting away from bulky, large front rims and tires, check early pics of both John Lazenby and Sarge's bugs even had flared fenders. Quickly went the way of the dinosaur, things were moving fast.  Performance parts were trying to keep up, developing performance parts by Gene, Dino, Darryl, Schileys et al, at the Drags, Lions OC International race way.
Big n littles, aerodynamic and light weight were the key.  Racing water pampers, we needed the advantage of quickness.  How do you explain to your girl that just saw you lose to a cute little bug (Volkswagen), haha.
Love that!  Still happening today.
On the street, signal to signal, or better yet calling them out as they cruised us at Select Auto, "Wanna race a Volkswagen? "
Not good times, great times.