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Martin
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New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 21, 2007, 20:49:11 pm »
After messing about with EFI for years, i have come up with, what i think is a solution for the crank trigger. I made a few years ago but you had to remove the trigger to take the belt off, not ideal.
Take a look at my new setup and let me know what you think...
Belt off
Belt on
I have machined the customers Berg pully for his application. I have made a fixture for machining the pulleys so they will all come out the same. Or you can buy one of mine ready done
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Martin
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Martin Greaves
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 21, 2007, 20:55:18 pm »
Cool i think i will make them at work to so if any one want one let me know.
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Roman
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 21, 2007, 21:00:01 pm »
Very nice! What pickup are you using?
I have a Jaycee crank trigger that I bought used and never used just because it isnīt possible to use with a fan belt.
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james wotton
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 21, 2007, 21:30:17 pm »
I've got the first one of these it uses a ford zetec trigger. Martin said to set my timing to 68 deg it was spot on.
thanks martin.
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 21, 2007, 23:13:48 pm »
Looking tasty Trailer. Can you make one to fit a WBX?
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 10:19:24 am »
Quote from: All Torque on November 21, 2007, 23:13:48 pm
Looking tasty Trailer. Can you make one to fit a WBX?
Anything for you Keeno
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Martin
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boxertje
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 10:36:20 am »
wow,...looks great.Can you make me one ?Please mail me one how to send,pay etc.
destroyed already 4 sand seal pulley's .
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 12:07:11 pm »
Quote from: boxertje on November 22, 2007, 10:36:20 am
wow,...looks great.Can you make me one ?Please mail me one how to send,pay etc.
destroyed already 4 sand seal pulley's .
email me your details
volksman@btinternet.com
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Martin
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mychatype3
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 13:31:51 pm »
That's a nice product.
I see my friend "boxertje" mailed you already
if he has the details we will order to getter.
Can you make one set to fit a wbx engine........
Greetings mycha
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 18:49:15 pm »
very nice...i might have to get one...
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 21:14:10 pm »
Quote from: mychatype3 on November 22, 2007, 13:31:51 pm
That's a nice product.
I see my friend "boxertje" mailed you already
if he has the details we will order to getter.
Can you make one set to fit a wbx engine........
Greetings mycha
I'll need to get my hands on a wbx motor to make sure, but i'll be able to make one to fit.
boxertje has emailed already! lol
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Martin
9 sec street car, its just simply not fast enough
Swing axle to CV convertion is on the website now
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richie
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 22, 2007, 23:39:48 pm »
Why do you need to take the belt off?
If i need to get mine off I find the 8400+ rpm range does it for me
cheers richie,uk
Yours seemed to work for Jim ok
Now you need someone who actually drives hard to try one
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james wotton
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 23, 2007, 00:15:32 am »
Quote from: richie,uk on November 22, 2007, 23:39:48 pm
Why do you need to take the belt off?
If i need to get mine off I find the 8400+ rpm range does it for me
cheers richie,uk
Yours seemed to work for Jim ok
Now you need someone who actually drives hard to try one
WHAT EVER!
My belt stayed on for a week since I took my engine out!
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 23, 2007, 07:40:39 am »
Quote from: richie,uk on November 22, 2007, 23:39:48 pm
Why do you need to take the belt off?
If i need to get mine off I find the 8400+ rpm range does it for me
cheers richie,uk
Yours seemed to work for Jim ok
Now you need someone who actually drives hard to try one
Some people like there motor to get hot! LOL
you talking about Miss Daisy?
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Martin
9 sec street car, its just simply not fast enough
Swing axle to CV convertion is on the website now
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Neil Davies
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 23, 2007, 10:31:43 am »
Quote from: richie,uk on November 22, 2007, 23:39:48 pm
Why do you need to take the belt off?
If i need to get mine off I find the 8400+ rpm range does it for me
cheers richie,uk
Yours seemed to work for Jim ok
Now you need someone who actually drives hard to try one
8400? I can chuck a belt off at idle on my daily!
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mychatype3
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 25, 2007, 18:16:09 pm »
I'll need to get my hands on a wbx motor to make sure, but i'll be able to make one to fit.
ok, if that is possible please let me now
Do you have any idee about prices
Greetings mycha
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 08:00:31 am »
Martin can you pm me about prices, or post up here.
thanks
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drgouk
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 09:17:36 am »
Hi, you should make your bracket to fit a honeywell gt101 hall sender, quite a popular sensor with the aussie ecu's., also can you do them with only 2 trigger ponits, 180° degrees apart, 60° before tdc?, its for a autronic ecu.
Here is my jaycee bracket that i modified, its adjustable.
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 09:34:39 am »
Quote from: volksman on November 23, 2007, 07:40:39 am
you talking about Miss Daisy?
Now that nearly split my sides with laughter.
Poor old Wotton... he needs to nail that baby badly otherwise he will never live it down soon
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 10:08:59 am »
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 10:13:56 am »
Quote from: drgouk on November 30, 2007, 09:17:36 am
Hi, you should make your bracket to fit a honeywell gt101 hall sender, quite a popular sensor with the aussie ecu's., also can you do them with only 2 trigger ponits, 180° degrees apart, 60° before tdc?, its for a autronic ecu.
Here is my jaycee bracket that i modified, its adjustable.
I could make the bracket fit the honeywell sensor, just a matter of getting hold of one. but seeing as its a Hall effect sensor you'll still be able to use the ford unit. Yes i can cut pulleys in any cofigeration you require, the fixture i have made index's on the keyway so i can place the slots how every you want.
As for an adjustable bracket, that just sounds like a problem waiting to happen. Once the timing as been set on the ecu you shouldnt have to 'adjust' the sensor to make corrections. Can you not 'tell' theAutronics ecu's the placment of the trigger?
Can i ask why your using a dizzy?
Ive got a friend using the Autronics stuff, it looks very good.
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Martin
9 sec street car, its just simply not fast enough
Swing axle to CV convertion is on the website now
www.taylormachine.co.uk
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Martin
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Cash Converter....
Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 10:14:29 am »
Quote from: Mat Sanchez on November 30, 2007, 10:08:59 am
LMFAO! LOL
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Martin
9 sec street car, its just simply not fast enough
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drgouk
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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November 30, 2007, 17:41:32 pm »
Quote from: volksman on November 30, 2007, 10:13:56 am
Quote from: drgouk on November 30, 2007, 09:17:36 am
Hi, you should make your bracket to fit a honeywell gt101 hall sender, quite a popular sensor with the aussie ecu's., also can you do them with only 2 trigger ponits, 180° degrees apart, 60° before tdc?, its for a autronic ecu.
Here is my jaycee bracket that i modified, its adjustable.
I could make the bracket fit the honeywell sensor, just a matter of getting hold of one. but seeing as its a Hall effect sensor you'll still be able to use the ford unit. Yes i can cut pulleys in any cofigeration you require, the fixture i have made index's on the keyway so i can place the slots how every you want.
As for an adjustable bracket, that just sounds like a problem waiting to happen. Once the timing as been set on the ecu you shouldnt have to 'adjust' the sensor to make corrections. Can you not 'tell' theAutronics ecu's the placment of the trigger?
Can i ask why your using a dizzy?
Ive got a friend using the Autronics stuff, it looks very good.
Hi,
The honeywell sensor is one that autronic and motec reccomend and its available from most electronic stores, yes you probably coulduse the ford sensor you have.
Yes the adjustable bracket is not the best idea if the sensor comes loose. As it is the type of thing, once set it never need to be re visted.
The distributor is a msd dist with the magnetic reluctor sensor removed and a golf mk 2 hall sensor fitted in its place, it triggers only at tdc on number 1. I could have gone waste spark, but i wanted the look. The ecu fires the msd 6a box.
Can you do power pulley size?
David
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james wotton
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 01, 2007, 00:06:49 am »
Quote from: All Torque on November 30, 2007, 09:34:39 am
Quote from: volksman on November 23, 2007, 07:40:39 am
you talking about Miss Daisy?
Now that nearly split my sides with laughter.
Poor old Wotton... he needs to nail that baby badly otherwise he will never live it down soon
just teasing you all wait till next year.
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Martin Greaves
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 01, 2007, 00:41:15 am »
Yes he going to put a Holley on it.
Look if i can make a bucket work any one can.
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Martin
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 01, 2007, 09:52:56 am »
Quote from: drgouk on November 30, 2007, 17:41:32 pm
Quote from: volksman on November 30, 2007, 10:13:56 am
Quote from: drgouk on November 30, 2007, 09:17:36 am
Hi, you should make your bracket to fit a honeywell gt101 hall sender, quite a popular sensor with the aussie ecu's., also can you do them with only 2 trigger ponits, 180° degrees apart, 60° before tdc?, its for a autronic ecu.
Here is my jaycee bracket that i modified, its adjustable.
I could make the bracket fit the honeywell sensor, just a matter of getting hold of one. but seeing as its a Hall effect sensor you'll still be able to use the ford unit. Yes i can cut pulleys in any cofigeration you require, the fixture i have made index's on the keyway so i can place the slots how every you want.
Ok i get ya,
Yeah, i can do them in Power pulley sizes.
As for an adjustable bracket, that just sounds like a problem waiting to happen. Once the timing as been set on the ecu you shouldnt have to 'adjust' the sensor to make corrections. Can you not 'tell' theAutronics ecu's the placment of the trigger?
Can i ask why your using a dizzy?
Ive got a friend using the Autronics stuff, it looks very good.
Hi,
The honeywell sensor is one that autronic and motec reccomend and its available from most electronic stores, yes you probably coulduse the ford sensor you have.
Yes the adjustable bracket is not the best idea if the sensor comes loose. As it is the type of thing, once set it never need to be re visted.
The distributor is a msd dist with the magnetic reluctor sensor removed and a golf mk 2 hall sensor fitted in its place, it triggers only at tdc on number 1. I could have gone waste spark, but i wanted the look. The ecu fires the msd 6a box.
Can you do power pulley size?
David
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Martin
9 sec street car, its just simply not fast enough
Swing axle to CV convertion is on the website now
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K-Roc
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 11, 2007, 05:46:04 am »
Quote from: drgouk on November 30, 2007, 09:17:36 am
Hi, you should make your bracket to fit a honeywell gt101 hall sender, quite a popular sensor with the aussie ecu's., also can you do them with only 2 trigger ponits, 180° degrees apart, 60° before tdc?, its for a autronic ecu.
Here is my jaycee bracket that i modified, its adjustable.
Hey Dave, what manifolds are those?
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drgouk
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 11, 2007, 10:10:32 am »
Darren,
They are cb ida manifolds. They are 50mm jenvey throttle bodies, I made the linkage arms out of berg ida and the jenvey ones. Were'nt you going to run jenvey throttle bodies?
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K-Roc
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December 11, 2007, 17:35:43 pm »
Hi Dave, Nice looking set up BTW, yes I have been running Jenvey 48mm IDF bodies for about 4 years now, The reason I asked the question about the manifolds is that on my IDF bodies the CB manifolds I have make the Bodies sit with the fuel rails outboard, Due to the wide stud spacing being on the outboard side of the manifolds ( which is correct if you use IDF carbs) But not with the T-bodies.... Bruce made up some Carb-Turn a-rounders ( adapter plates ) for me.
In your case things with the IDA style bodies works out perfectly.
I'm changing to the latest Megasquirt brain this winter and also making a few other small
changes to the drive train this year...
My goal for 2008 is to get into the 10's on 94 octane, in full 1900 lb trim... ( I have to knock off 1/2 a second of my current ET. to make it happen)
Cheers.
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Peter
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Re: New Product for the EFI guys..... need feedback......thanks.
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December 11, 2007, 22:46:01 pm »
thats cool darren,
I was thinking of using adapters as well..
do you have a pic of your setup?
thanks!
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