Jon
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« on: November 26, 2007, 23:47:44 pm » |
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I've seen the car and I just found out he had a MEAN mouse engine that got him into the elevens?!?! But I have never heard the tale... is there one?
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 01:51:04 am » |
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Kris drove that as a street car for many years before crossing over to a full dedicated racer in the mid 70's and yes in fact it had a 1750cc engine(72x88) that pushed it into the 11's with 14:5 compression/ 11.93 E.T. full weight with driver @ 1770 lbs.....later went on into battle with a (78x88)=1900cc combo and ran 11:53 later went to a 84x94 engine that went 11:11 E.T. @ 119 MPH..!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 03:39:22 am » |
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I think the car now resides in the land of the rising sun
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 09:43:31 am » |
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Kris drove that as a street car for many years before crossing over to a full dedicated racer in the mid 70's and yes in fact it had a 1750cc engine(72x88) that pushed it into the 11's with 14:5 compression/ 11.93 E.T. full weight with driver @ 1770 lbs.....later went on into battle with a (78x88)=1900cc combo and ran 11:53 later went to a 84x94 engine that went 11:11 E.T. @ 119 MPH..!!
Interesting info, thanks. Using a ET calculator found on the www it shows that a 1770lbs doing 11.11 @ 119mph would have approx 235hp. Do you know the MPH he managed with the 72x88 engine on the 11.93 run? Best rgs BB
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Jon
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 13:13:46 pm » |
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Thanks Dyno and all, the facts are eye openers in more way than I probably realize. How was this achieved? What revs did this thing see, and who did the heads? I see KRE mentioned on this car, did they have anything to do with it ?? In the lack of something better, any pic’s of the engine?
Again Thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 13:32:55 pm » |
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jon here's the report of kris's car when he used on the street , the info are in the text to come , the drag version with the species of the engine
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 13:36:57 pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 13:48:32 pm » |
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why aren`t I surprised you had some pictures Fabian
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 13:51:42 pm » |
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and now race version with the 1751cc
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 13:53:47 pm » |
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why aren`t I surprised you had some pictures Fabian you know me they call me the "archivist"
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2007, 13:55:16 pm » |
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if some one want the report in higher resolution i've , just pm me
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 14:35:51 pm » |
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Here's a Picture of kris's Car just after he took it off the Street Picture was Taken at Bug In
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Der Selten Kafers VW Club. Founding Member Est: 1976
58 Ragtop Old School Cal Look 66 Cal Look Drag Car 67 Resto Cal Look 67 Chevy II Nova L79 02 Camaro Vert! 04 Corvette Vert! 04 Colorado Pickup
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 14:44:16 pm » |
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and now race version with the 1751cc 1751 CC Mouse Motor? Big Heads by Steve Tims,Big Cam FK89,14.1 Compression,and A Very Close Rato Gear Box, And Lots of RPM going threw the Lights this Combo has Been Proven.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2007, 17:01:23 pm » |
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jon here's the report of kris's car when he used on the street , the info are in the text to come , the drag version with the species of the engine Hey Theres that DSK Car Again LOL
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 17:16:13 pm » |
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what RPM's you ask..?? going thru the lights at a mere 9K RPM's...and seeing an occasional 10K now and then depending on (missed shifts) or track/tune-up conditions...engine tear down mandatory every 10 passes and trans soon to follow with the 4:87 r/p...KRE was around the corner and were helpful in many ways and the dyno time was most appreciated...heads were a combination of 'steve tims'...'lonnie reed wedgeports'...'autocraft'...and 'superflow'...tims and head shop heads were mainly 42x37 valve sizes...we were the first handful of guys to use (Carter Penleys carbon fiber pushrods) as well as many other innovations for that time period...
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2007, 17:20:50 pm » |
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happy to heard some cool story dyno rgd fabs
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2007, 20:43:37 pm » |
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cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now???
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2007, 20:56:31 pm » |
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no nicolas , carlos's another one that shubee who had that car after scott
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2007, 21:45:23 pm » |
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Kris Klingaman was the reason i got into dragracing. Cool topic and inspiration for my mouse engine to be
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2007, 06:56:51 am » |
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Both cars are awesome. Wish I could jump back in time to see these cars go at it. Don't we all?
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2007, 15:17:13 pm » |
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cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now???
the Red Car Was Scott Bakkens but not the same one Carlos has that 67 was mine I bought it from Scott
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nicolas
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2007, 17:43:50 pm » |
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cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now???
the Red Car Was Scott Bakkens but not the same one Carlos has that 67 was mine I bought it from Scott thanks, so now you still have it or did you pass it on yourself?
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2007, 21:53:24 pm » |
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