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Joel Mohr
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Posts: 184
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #840 on:
June 19, 2018, 15:56:13 pm »
Yes! Jose at DPR said it be stronger than adding counterweights to a 40 hp crank...
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SEE YA AT THE RACES!!!
slowlearner
Newbie
Posts: 26
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #841 on:
August 31, 2018, 09:51:15 am »
Quote from: Joel Mohr on June 18, 2018, 16:27:12 pm
1672, 65 x 90.5, 46 x 36 Clyde Berg large oval ports, Hemi cut, detailed chambers, Berg short IDA manifolds, Berg 37/42 venturis, 9.9 to 1, Web 86b, Mohr Performance 3 step header, makes 155 on 91 octane....
Love to see a vid of that running. What's it going in?
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Joel Mohr
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Posts: 184
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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September 17, 2018, 18:19:33 pm »
It's in my Puma...
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1946vw
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Posts: 105
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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September 27, 2018, 16:21:58 pm »
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alex d
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Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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September 27, 2018, 21:24:15 pm »
any input on this?
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1946vw
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Posts: 105
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May 09, 2019, 20:45:46 pm »
G/D goes 8.51 149.86 300 plus hp 1700
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dangerous
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Posts: 270
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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May 09, 2019, 22:38:42 pm »
Awesome 1946VW
What is the weight?
..or weight/ci ?
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1946vw
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Posts: 105
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May 09, 2019, 23:35:19 pm »
104 cid 870 lbs
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1946vw
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Posts: 105
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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July 16, 2019, 18:47:26 pm »
Woodburn
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Neil Davies
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Posts: 3438
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #849 on:
July 16, 2019, 20:41:17 pm »
I can just make out Comp Eliminator on the trophy - tell us more! That is a Wally, isn't it?
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2007cc, 48IDFs, street car. 14.45@93 on pump fuel, treads, muffler and fanbelt. October 2017!
1946vw
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Posts: 105
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #850 on:
August 06, 2019, 19:38:55 pm »
Seattle 2019
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Abadco2
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Posts: 48
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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August 06, 2019, 23:26:22 pm »
Fantastic, well done!
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JeeWee
Jr. Member
Posts: 67
the Netherlands
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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May 03, 2020, 09:47:33 am »
awesome topic which I enjoyed last week during my holiday... at home. Fantastic to read about 140hp per litre from these engines, incredible work and lot's of respect! I was already happy with my 1192 36hp engine putting out 48.9hp, but now I am wondering... with some clever blueprinting what is possible with that pre war design engine and modern thinking...
Anyhow any updates on cool projects?
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brewsy
Sr. Member
Posts: 357
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #853 on:
May 03, 2020, 11:09:29 am »
Quote from: JeeWee on May 03, 2020, 09:47:33 am
awesome topic which I enjoyed last week during my holiday... at home. Fantastic to read about 140hp per litre from these engines, incredible work and lot's of respect! I was already happy with my 1192 36hp engine putting out 48.9hp, but now I am wondering... with some clever blueprinting what is possible with that pre war design engine and modern thinking...
Anyhow any updates on cool projects?
Check out the 36HP class in LSR.
Those peeps are doing some big stuff with those old engines..
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Glauco
Hero Member
Posts: 511
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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August 22, 2020, 16:08:41 pm »
Anyone got more info on the new JPM 1600cc challange engine?
Not sure if it's ok for me to post it here, but his work is quite impressive!
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brewsy
Sr. Member
Posts: 357
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #855 on:
August 24, 2020, 20:50:37 pm »
Quote from: Glauco on August 22, 2020, 16:08:41 pm
Anyone got more info on the new JPM 1600cc challange engine?
Not sure if it's ok for me to post it here, but his work is quite impressive!
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WOW.
Somebody post some dyno videos quick!!
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mymedusa
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Posts: 76
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #856 on:
September 19, 2020, 20:07:14 pm »
Hi folks,
I build and testet a 1285cc turbo
K03 7074 twin scroll turbo, water intercooler system, water meth spray, MS1extra efi
AB engine
77mm stronger pistons, stock barrels
Stock ballanced crank
Heads slightly portet (35x33)mm stainless valves
Jpm single valve springs plus scat inner spring
Cromo puschrods
Cb H-beam rods 20mm pin
TCS20 engle camshaft, stock rockers 9,2:1, 102oktane fuel
Nothing real special on the engine intselfe
225hp@6800rpm 260nm@3500rpm at 1,35 bar
250hp@6300rpm 293nm@3500 rpm at 1,8 bar flatten to 1,6bar
Very streetable, full body car with 205/70 r15 tires
0-100 in 5,01sec still to improve
3.88, 89 4th. Pro street
Slow 13,77s at 1/4 mile @169km/h full body street tires
Also still to improve because of bad 60feet times far over 2 sec.
Real fuel saver try to reach unter 7l/100km
On the list: destroyed axle and later 1. Gear both at the 1/4 mile track.
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brewsy
Sr. Member
Posts: 357
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #857 on:
September 20, 2020, 15:44:31 pm »
Quote from: mymedusa on September 19, 2020, 20:07:14 pm
Hi folks,
I build and testet a 1285cc turbo
K03 7074 twin scroll turbo, water intercooler system, water meth spray, MS1extra efi
AB engine
77mm stronger pistons, stock barrels
Stock ballanced crank
Heads slightly portet (35x33)mm stainless valves
Jpm single valve springs plus scat inner spring
Cromo puschrods
Cb H-beam rods 20mm pin
TCS20 engle camshaft, stock rockers 9,2:1, 102oktane fuel
Nothing real special on the engine intselfe
225hp@6800rpm 260nm@3500rpm at 1,35 bar
250hp@6300rpm 293nm@3500 rpm at 1,8 bar flatten to 1,6bar
Very streetable, full body car with 205/70 r15 tires
0-100 in 5,01sec still to improve
3.88, 89 4th. Pro street
Slow 13,77s at 1/4 mile @169km/h full body street tires
Also still to improve because of bad 60feet times far over 2 sec.
Real fuel saver try to reach unter 7l/100km
On the list: destroyed axle and later 1. Gear both at the 1/4 mile track.
AWESOME!!
Im guessing 102 Octane isn't 'street' fuel??
Marc
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mymedusa
Jr. Member
Posts: 76
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #858 on:
September 20, 2020, 20:20:44 pm »
In germany it is. I just need it for the 250hp.
Chris
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DRED
Newbie
Posts: 18
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #859 on:
September 20, 2020, 20:52:55 pm »
hello chris,
can you tell me more a bout the tcs 20?
it's an ils profile, what did motiver your choix, do toi think you can use it with 1.25 rocker. would you change it and by what?
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brewsy
Sr. Member
Posts: 357
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #860 on:
September 21, 2020, 09:57:32 am »
Quote from: mymedusa on September 20, 2020, 20:20:44 pm
In germany it is. I just need it for the 250hp.
Chris
Hi Chris,
Thats pretty cool. I 'think' our (UK) street best is Shell 98.
Really like your exhaust. It looks like you have paired the cylinders front & back to give 1+3 & 2+4 cylinders and then 'siamised' them together to keep the gases separate to the twin scroll entry, correct?
Can I ask where you have the water/air radiator? Is it at the front of the car and do you run the water pipes inside or outside the car?
Cheers
Marc
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mymedusa
Jr. Member
Posts: 76
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #861 on:
September 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am »
The tcs20 just matched my ports best. I wanted a range from 3500-7000rpm cam and port can do this. On the track i have fist till 8000rpm,
Sec. till 7500tpm and 3dr into finish line close the max hp.
98okt fuelnis std best fuel here too, but you can buy schell 100oktane and aral untimate 102oct. Fuel.
With the header its right. Because og the shape of the inlet into the turbine i build the true header with a friend exactly how you told. 4-2 and 1-3 and put a plate into a pipe to get all matched.
My whater tank is unter the back seat, pump is close and outside and radiator in floored under the car. Its ok. But not best solution.
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DRED
Newbie
Posts: 18
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #862 on:
September 22, 2020, 19:36:45 pm »
ok, Thanks Chris. i'm currently building a 2074cc turbo with small cylinder heads for a street car, and i have a tcs20 on the shelf but I wasn't sure if it's a good choice..
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brewsy
Sr. Member
Posts: 357
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #863 on:
September 23, 2020, 11:19:39 am »
Quote from: mymedusa on September 22, 2020, 10:13:50 am
With the header its right. Because og the shape of the inlet into the turbine i build the true header with a friend exactly how you told. 4-2 and 1-3 and put a plate into a pipe to get all matched.
My whater tank is unter the back seat, pump is close and outside and radiator in floored under the car. Its ok. But not best solution.
Nice!
Im intending to see if I can get 2x coolers up the front for water and oil but had been considering only a water circuit . Then using a water-oil oilcooler sandwich adaptor. The water circuit would then cover turbo air-water intercooler, turbo water cooling and oil. That sounds like it would help with rapid engine oil warm up however I have a feeling that the water in the cooling circuit would only go as low as 80-90C and mean that the turbo intercooler wont be able to get the 'cool' air any lower than that temperature?
Would anybody agree/disagree with that?
Cheers
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johandryselius
Full Member
Posts: 132
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #864 on:
September 29, 2020, 21:29:21 pm »
I run a TCS30 on my 1600 Challenge engine - unporteded heads and original valves and it produces 312 Wheel HP@ 2bar (29PSI). When I ran my quickest pass, I ran 2,5 bar (36PSI) on gear 2-4.
Johan
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9,4386@242,48km/h; 6,1229@193,15 km/h 1,50 60 foot @ Kjula Dragway 2022
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9,5112@225,42 km/h; 6,0624@185,85 km/h 1,38 60 foot @ Kjula Dragway 2020
Europes quickest ProStock VW:
9,8538@218,80 km/h; 6,2569@176,24 km/h 1,35 60 foot @ BRC Tierp Arena 2014
gracey
Newbie
Posts: 3
Re: Small powerhouses and old school
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Reply #865 on:
November 15, 2020, 09:38:34 am »
Quote from: Glauco on August 22, 2020, 16:08:41 pm
Anyone got more info on the new JPM 1600cc challange engine?
Not sure if it's ok for me to post it here, but his work is quite impressive!
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Is there a tuning reason for using 36mm venturi's in 48IDF's instead of using 44IDF's?
I'm thinking better signal, or maybe the 48's were available?
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