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Mauro Cattan
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Posts: 360
Manovra So Cal
Magneto
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September 05, 2006, 18:27:26 pm »
Hi guys, I would like to buy the Magneto. There are three type of it, Vertex, Hunt, Scintilla, so which is the best one for a drag motor?
Thanks
Mauro
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Frank LUX
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Re: Magneto
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September 05, 2006, 19:24:24 pm »
Quote from: Mauro Cattan on September 05, 2006, 18:27:26 pm
Hi guys, I would like to buy the Magneto. There are three type of it, Vertex, Hunt, Scintilla, so which is the best one for a drag motor?
Thanks
Mauro
Hi Mauro,
Most Magneto's are Vertex Scintilla's and where build in Switzerland....
Joe Hunt or Don Zig take these Magnetos an Modify them for Racing...
Up To You which Manufacturer Plate you Prefer, but I would go for a Joe Hunt...
Frank
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Ole
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Re: Magneto
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September 05, 2006, 20:14:48 pm »
Hey Mauro,
follow these links and you should get answers to your questions.
http://donzig.com/vertex.html
www.huntmagnetos.com/
If you order stuff from Joe Hunt let me know, I need some parts too.
Saludos,
Ole
Edit: I just see the Huntmagnetos.com link doesn't work
should be a temporary problem...
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Zach Gomulka
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Re: Magneto
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September 05, 2006, 21:01:12 pm »
If I give a magneto to Joe Hunt will they modify it for me? What do they do to it? How much does it cost? Which magneto is best to have, Vertex, Scintilla? I would email them but the website is down!
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Mauro Cattan
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Manovra So Cal
Re: Magneto
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September 05, 2006, 23:28:19 pm »
Thanks guys.
Yes, I have found some answers!!
An other question: with magneto can I set the rev limiter easily and how can I do it?
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Jon
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12,3@174km/t at Gardermoen 2008
Re: Magneto
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September 06, 2006, 09:39:00 am »
What Joe Hunt goes is what you want them to do.
What they CAN do is give you a new ignition curve, the available are 12° and 6° or fixed. They can allso recharge the magnets in the magneto so they are like new. A magneto must be used once in a while to keep its magnets fresh... I have heard.
If you plan on hitting high revs, who aren’t, you must order extra springs to the points to stiffen it up.
And that is pretty much it, there isn't anything more to do to them... but you should add a magneto clamp... or your engine case will take a beating, because these things are heavy!
To mount a ordinary Tach to them you need a signal converter from either Autometer, Joe Hunt(relabelled autometer) or Don Zig (relabelled autometer). Or you can buy a Magneto Tach from Autometer.
To adjust the magneto ignition correctly you need a smal electronic gizmo they sell at both Joe Hunt and Don Zig... some has had luck with very low quality strobe pistols too.
And I have just found out that
www.summitracing.com
has Vertex parts in their shop... I'm ordering parts tonight for my Vertex.
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Mauro Cattan
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Posts: 360
Manovra So Cal
Re: Magneto
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September 06, 2006, 11:08:41 am »
Yeah!!!! Now my ideas begin to be clearer.
010 vs Magneto, who is the winner? I know that with magneto I can run without battery for to improve the car weight, and nothing else?
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Ole
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Re: Magneto
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September 06, 2006, 15:10:02 pm »
Quote from: Mauro Cattan on September 05, 2006, 23:28:19 pm
An other question: with magneto can I set the rev limiter easily and how can I do it?
I use the Autometer Pro Control 5302 and it works good.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ATM%2D5302&N=115+4294925143+400442+4294816773&autoview=sku
But this unit needs 12V, without voltage the Mag is connected to ground. So you have to use a small motorcycle battery and you need some people to push your car to get your machine started...
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Jon
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Re: Magneto
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September 06, 2006, 15:40:20 pm »
Ole, what kind of tach do you use with the magneto?
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Ole
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Re: Magneto
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September 06, 2006, 20:44:39 pm »
Hey Jon,
I use an old Autometer tach for magnetos, no converter needed.
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Re: Magneto
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September 07, 2006, 08:15:34 am »
Okay, smart solution... nasty sticker you got there!!
I'm thinking on fixing my procontroller to have lauch RPM to... any ideas on this?
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Helge/DFL
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Re: Magneto
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September 07, 2006, 11:57:53 am »
this is my 80th Vertex-Autometer and "sticker"-collection. All vintage 80th. Nothing added or missing since then.
(OK. I`m a poser
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Helge/DFL
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Re: Magneto
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September 07, 2006, 12:01:42 pm »
ups. Here is the pic.
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Mauro Cattan
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Posts: 360
Manovra So Cal
Re: Magneto
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September 08, 2006, 01:48:26 am »
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I use the Autometer Pro Control 5302 and it works good.
so I must have a controller....mmmmm....I don't like it. Now I have the MSD Ignition 6AL but it is too modern. I would like to race without electronic help or with little help, like in the 1969. What do you advise to me?
Pura vida
Mauro
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Jon
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Re: Magneto
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September 08, 2006, 09:02:46 am »
Quote from: Mauro Cattan on September 08, 2006, 01:48:26 am
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I use the Autometer Pro Control 5302 and it works good.
I would like to race without electronic help or with little help, like in the 1969.
Mauro
Don't worry Mauro, the only thing the procontrol does for you is prevent you from blowing up your engine... and slow you down due to added weight.. hehe
If you want it periode correct you should look for the earliest model, wich is shaped like a cylinder... If I remember correctly.
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