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Jim Ratto
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« on: March 18, 2008, 05:05:14 am »

Dude, what's the hold up? I thought for sure by now you would have bombed the ring and pinion!

is it done YET?     Grin Grin Grin


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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 05:08:30 am »

I'm beginning to think Sheep's motor WILL be done first....

and maybe Derek's 2332 too...

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 05:15:53 am »

Dude, I'm waiting on my friggin carbs!  Angry I've been promised Friday. We'll see. They might finish first, but mine will be faster  Tongue
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John Bates
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 12:21:11 pm »

Haha ,
i'm in the same boat too,
allways waiting waiting...
and i m not a fast worker either.. but that will change when i move into my house...
then i have time to work on the motor again...hopefully
and if that doesnt happen, i m gonna have it built... Roll Eyes
the waiting is killing me!  Cry Cry
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 04:05:11 am »

After 13 years of collecting parts, 2 wives, 3 girlfriends, 3 kids, 5 jobs and living in 3 states, my 2165cc VW engine is ready to go in. I still need to tidy up a few things in the engine compartment before it goes in my 67.

Specs:
-NOS German thick back case by Rimco
-78mm Bugpack crank w/12lb Bugpack flywheel and Bugpack 36mm gland nut
-5.352" Bugpack/Eagle rods
-94mm Mahle "B"s with CB tool steel wrist pins
-CB 044s by Heads Up Performance 42 x 37.5 valves (thanks Jim)
-Bugpack 4046 dual springs with CB Ti retainers
-.042" deck x 57cc chambers for 9.4:1 CR
-Bugpack 10mm head studs
-Engle FK-45 with CB 1.4 rockers .566" lift @ valve x 266* @ .050
-NOS Weismann lifters, coated by Heads Up
-Berg .035 wall pushrods 10.865" long
-Berg/Magnum straight cut gears
-Berg 1 3/4" merged heater box exhaust with A1 2 1/2" Renn Kafer Muffler
-Spanish 48 IDAs with 40mm vents, float bowls and fuel inlets enlarged by me, 3rd prog. hole
-Berg 26mm pump, 3.5 qt sump, alternator breather box and System 1 tall filter
-All OEM VW tin with thermostat
-Bosch 010 with resistorless rotor, Pertronix 1844 module and MSD 6AL, Taylor 8mm wires
-Berg power pulley with NOS 356 generator pulley
 


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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 04:53:35 am »

So did I beat Derek and Sheep? Grin
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 06:09:46 am »

Very Kool....! it's a great feeling when a project like that if Done...!!....Whens the install.?...I'd like to know more about the berg 1 3/4 header..!
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 06:21:05 am »

So did I beat Derek and Sheep? Grin

with style!

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 14:14:52 pm »

AWESOME, Bates! Extra credit for running big heater boxes and a distributor, too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 18:56:42 pm »

I'm praying to the oil pressure and break-in gods for you, my friend! Grin
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 01:09:57 am »

Very Kool....! it's a great feeling when a project like that if Done...!!....Whens the install.?...I'd like to know more about the berg 1 3/4 header..!
It is a great feeling. This engine has gone together a few times with different components but this is the final combo for now. I tried to do everything I could myself from machining the barrels, pushrods, relief valve seats, topping lifter bores, balanced the rods end to end, balanced the pistons, brazed on the pick up tube, welded up any unnecessary holes in the tin, etc. I also made the AN -6 carb fittings and M12 x 1.0 plug, opened up the float bowls and fuel inlets and made steel AN -8 breather fittings for the fuel pump block off and passenger side valve cover.

Hopefully it will be going in very soon! I have to clean up the wiring, do some body  work to the engine compartment seal channels and install factory style sound deadening before it goes in.

As for the header, it's a Berg 1 3/4" header with new heater boxes that have been opened up and 1 3/4" pipes put in before being sealed back up. They had the header and heater boxes in stock but no mufflers so I got a pretty good deal on it. Since their header guy is so flakey, they may never make them again (Dee's words, not mine). Since they weren't going have mufflers in the foreseen future, I hacked off the flange and reclocked it for the A1 I got from James @ Buggy House very cheap. I also made an 02 bung and welded that in.

Here's the 67 waiting:

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John Bates
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 01:27:14 am »

Always dug the way your car looks and it's proper finish on the alloys. Looking forward to seeing it all come together, John.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 10:28:08 am »

john is this the 67 from  johnny salgado Huh
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 17:21:32 pm »

john is this the 67 from  johnny salgado Huh

Nope Wink
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 17:34:05 pm »

john is this the 67 from  johnny salgado Huh

Nope Wink
that's chris who 've the car Huh
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 17:34:40 pm »

I wish. This is a 67 I bought near Klamath Falls, Oregon about 5 year ago. It wears a lot of it's original 45 year old paint and really could use a respray. It's a good 20 footer and always looks better in pics than in person.
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John Bates
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 18:41:01 pm »

john is this the 67 from  johnny salgado Huh

Nope Wink
that's chris who 've the car Huh

Yes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 18:53:45 pm »

thx guys
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2011, 01:27:36 am »

Motor is in.  Grin  Need some AN fittings for the oil lines, some heater hoses and wire it up. I also need to move one of the Fast Fab Kafer brace cross bar tabs. The down strut won't clear the drivers side heater box since my motor is so narrow, so I've got to cut off the tab and move it about a 1/4". I'm also going to make a custom traction bar that tucks up closer to the body and will clear the muffler and use outboard rubber mounts like a late bus.

Looks like I'll need my back up Mike Collins tranny freshened up pretty soon. Grin

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 03:48:10 am »

Congrats! Looks great... all business and no bling.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 04:03:48 am »

That's some awesome porn right there. IMO run the tranny until it grenades. Congrats on this Olympic moment. Cheers! Cool
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2011, 06:36:51 am »

Nice job John Cool
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 20:53:01 pm »

Soooooo?HuhHuhHuh    No numbers from the 1/4mi or dyno?  No blown up tranny?  No tire smoke?   What is this nonsense!??!?!?!     Kiss  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 02:36:45 am »

Just need time, money and better weather. Work has slowed and I've had to spend a bunch of time and money lately on stuff other than VWs ($1200 on a Fridge last week). I've got fuel in the carbs, 5 quarts of 10W-30 VR-1 in the sump. I need 2 -8 90* AN fittings that I'll have Friday, wire the gauges, bleed my brakes, align the suspension and break the transaxle. Grin

I"m also contemplating shortening my manifolds a 1/2" so my #2 velocity stack clears the decklid with the filter on.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2011, 02:43:47 am »

You do know that I carry aluminum AN fittings ast work now, right??? Tongue
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2011, 03:07:39 am »

Earl's Ano-Tuff? That's what I need for the Pro-Lite 350 hose. I think this will probably be my last fitting purchase this year.
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John Bates
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2011, 03:33:27 am »

Got my fittings today, oil lines built, System 1 filter mounted, and gear oil in trans  I went to fire the motor and I've got no spark. It's hooked up exactly as it was with the old motor, so either the Pertronix took a dump, MSD coil or the 6AL took a dump. They don't call MSD Mysterious Spark Disappearance for nothing. Angry

My fucking intermediate housing leaks on the new trans too. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2011, 01:37:26 am »

Earl's Ano-Tuff? That's what I need for the Pro-Lite 350 hose. I think this will probably be my last fitting purchase this year.

I carry an offshore brand, but it's hard annodized, all black.  Pretty damn sexy if I do say so my damn self.  I'm going to run it and the pro-lite hose on my IDA's.   Grin
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 04:09:24 am »

Fragola? Fa ... Fr ... something like that.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2011, 04:57:42 am »

I liked what I saw during my tour today...Grin  Mighty good looking car/engine.
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