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Louis Do yourself a Favor and buy this Pan its much better shape then yours and you can get by with replacing the right pan half plus you get an extra trans and front end which you can sell I would not want to drive a car that has had the frame head changed just my 2 cents http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=613678http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=279648 |
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Wow, without wanting to cause offense, I wasn't expecting it to be that bad...! It looks bad and it is bad, but I have seen worse brought back to life.  Hi Shubee, Thanks for the input. I don't think the whole frame head will need to be replaced, just the bottom plate and the napoleon's hat. I will know better once I get it cut open. I do have a spare titled '72 chassis I can use if this one is to far gone. --louis |
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2008, 16:30:26 pm » |
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Just a couple of pics on my progress with the pan. May not look like much but I have spent a lot of time cutting, grinding, cussing and bitching to get the pan this far. At least it is ready to actually start rebuilding it. As you can tell from the photos I am taking a lot of ideas from HVW's recent pan build up. (Thanks Deano!) Though I don't think mine will turn out as shiny as the one in HVWs. (But then again, I won't have to clean it as much either.  ) Stripped pan, bit hard to see. Not a lot of light outside with the tropical storm passing through.  Access panels:  A note to anyone who is going to do this, watch out for the bracket in the front. I misjudged a bit but I don;t think it will hurt the bracket strength.  Also watch for the rear heater cable tubes if you plan to use your heater. I won't be running a heater so not a big deal to me.  Couple of shots of the tool I made to install the nutserts. Cost, $10.00. Got the idea from here: http://www.318ti.org/notebook/nutserts/  Hard to see, but here is why they welded the body mounts to the pan. One of the body bolts broke off in the mount. Going to have to figure out how to get it out now.  New top hat mocked up. It fits like crap.    Next up is to remove what is left of the frame head bottom plate. Then it will be time to run the new fuel line. Hotrodvw from this forum supplied the AN fittings for the fuel line ends and I have a piece of stainless steel 3/8 tubing to use as the fuel line. Pans are on order from Wolfsburg West. Might have an actual usable pan in a couple of months. --louis |
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2008, 21:03:32 pm » |
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Hi Louis! I have a question. I can understand the use of this access (I do the same on my 67' but smaller) But this one? What is your need to have an access here?  |
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2008, 22:22:01 pm » |
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Check and reweld the clutch tube bracket. Also to help run the fuel line.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2008, 23:04:12 pm » |
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2008, 02:38:13 am » |
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How'd you like using the nutserts? I have some ideas for them, but haven't gotten any yet.
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2008, 03:14:16 am » |
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2008, 03:24:22 am » |
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How'd you like using the nutserts? I have some ideas for them, but haven't gotten any yet.
They installed easier than I thought they would. You just have to make sure the hole is the right size. The ones I used called for a 25/64 hole. Thought I would get away with a 7/16 which was a little bigger but they cocked to the side a bit. After the first two I went and found the right size drill bit and they worked fine. (Though a longer wrench would have helped.) Oh and I got mine from Fastenel. They have stores all over the US so you don't have to order them. Lookin' good, Louis..., man, that looks like a butt load of work. You haven't cut yourself or uttered any curse words ,have you?? Cuts no, curse words, always. --louis |
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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2008, 14:38:35 pm » |
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Dude! That makes stuff we restore in the UK look good!  Think I'd be starting with the '72 pan... Pan halves and framehead bottom plate I'd do, but the napoleons hat too? That's just asking for trouble, especially with the "fit" (wow, a one word oxymoron!) of repro parts. And as for the rear quarter - get a complete '68-up one, it'll save you no end of work! Good Luck! |
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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2008, 15:22:19 pm » |
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Dude! That makes stuff we restore in the UK look good! Think I'd be starting with the '72 pan... Pan halves and framehead bottom plate I'd do, but the napoleons hat too? That's just asking for trouble, especially with the "fit" (wow, a one word oxymoron!) of repro parts. And as for the rear quarter - get a complete '68-up one, it'll save you no end of work! Good Luck! lol, its not as bad as it looks. no, really. The top hat will not be too bad to fix. I already have an idea how I am going to do it. Yeah I am pretty sure a lot of people would scrap this car. (I have been advised that by several.) But I figure I am not out anything by working on it but a few bucks and my time and I am looking forward to the challenge. You want to see a car in really bad shape, check this one out: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=200224&highlight=rust+repair --louis |
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2008, 15:55:28 pm » |
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Cool Pics Louis, í'm about to start the same project on a pan just as bad. Thanks for sharing and keep ém coming.
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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2008, 16:04:36 pm » |
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Cool Pics Louis, í'm about to start the same project on a pan just as bad. Thanks for sharing and keep ém coming.
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Measurements? What measurements?  I checked the measurements on this diagram and they appear to be correct. Of course I will mock everything up and test fit with the body on before final welding. I also have access to a few original pans should I have any questions. --louis |
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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2008, 16:06:32 pm » |
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I am also thinking of building a chassis jig. I just have not decided if it is worth it yet or not.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2008, 19:26:12 pm » |
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Couple of quick pics with the frame head bottom plate removed and mocking up the replacement. The fit is okay, but will need some tweaking. I am going to have the spine sand blasted first before I start to put it all back together.     That's all for this week. --louis |
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« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2008, 18:02:30 pm » |
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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2008, 13:33:26 pm » |
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I'm supposed to rip on sheep here, not sure how or why. Do you really need a reason? --louis Yeah, WTF's the hold-up?? Dang, Louis.... sure looks like a load of work. Hang in there!! |
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2008, 17:43:35 pm » |
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Impressive work Louis! At least you will know what you got when you are done...
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« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2008, 17:03:35 pm » |
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« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2008, 17:07:43 pm » |
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Thanks man! The rest of the fittings arrived last night btw. Going to try again this weekend to get that other end to solder on right.
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« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2008, 18:26:02 pm » |
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« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2008, 18:27:24 pm » |
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Thanks man. I look forward to getting it. Hope it is good garage music to listen to while working on my car!
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« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2008, 18:29:30 pm » |
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Cool.....let me know how it goes. Eric
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« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2008, 23:13:54 pm » |
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Thanks man. I look forward to getting it. Hope it is good garage music to listen to while working on my car!
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