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Russell
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things wrong with EBI2
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July 08, 2008, 22:32:25 pm »
things wrong with EBI2
1) Too short
2) The rain on saturday
3) Miss Bugin was already spoken for !
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 10:49:45 am »
may i add:
-one hour queues to get in during peak hours when there's 2 people at the gates
-reserved camping and show n shine spots that weren't reserved at all.
-ridiculous sanitary facilities, you could count the showers on one hand.
-where's the love for the show n shine? it looked like a parking area with only 3 club stand
DFL, DKT and ours.
-who invented the ridiculous idea of VIP-ing this and that?? there was literally f*ck to do. you needed a VIP pass to see the cars, to meet people, to have a drink.
-theft at the camping site
-what's up with all the french commentary, i thought we were at the
european
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 11:50:55 am »
I couldn't attend
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Russell
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 12:22:45 pm »
Diederick
having read your post i will agree with the queues and the VIP Passes, however i think they have been misunderstood.
The CSP one was for access to there own hostpialltiy tent, which is there own thing.
the Gasser Garage one didnt work out how it was intended it was meant to be a Pit Pass for drivers and there crews it was not meant to be a socal gathering trackside, however it did get to this at some points and Im sure you will have seen both Kobus and myself putting up tape and moving people with Gasser Garage passes out of the area. One real problem was to get your timing ticket was to walk up the side of the track which in any normal drag event wouldnt happen.
the gasser garage cars were available for access at all other times when racing was not ongoing and this was for Safety Reasons only. On the Friday night there was numerous people milling around the cars and the lounge meet...... and on saturday morning we spent 1 hour cleaning the track from empty and broken bottles, bottle tops, papers, etc.
Your other points i cant comment on the showers or the camping but Im sure the EBI crew will make further improvments for next year.
I did speak with some of the DFL guys and did have an understanding for the way the passes seemed to be misunderstood both by the event marshalls and the paying show goers.
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 12:39:02 pm »
"who invented the ridiculous idea of VIP-ing this and that?? there was literally f*ck to do. you needed a VIP pass to see the cars, to meet people, to have a drink."
I heard about it and could not believe this .
Please teach the track crew about doing it right , you can not put glue on a track during the day .......
I think there will be less race cars each year . Or are you planning to do a Gasser only event ?
Udo
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Mario/DKT
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 13:28:17 pm »
Perhaps so much of the
visitor's
expects too much of the bugin.
Some participants say this and that is not ok.
See it as aircooled-meeting - and you are not so disappointed.
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Lee.C
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:03:42 pm »
Quote from: Mario/DKT on July 09, 2008, 13:28:17 pm
Perhaps so much of the
visitor's
expects too much of the bugin.
Some participants say this and that is not ok.
See it as aircooled-meeting - and you are not so disappointed.
Very well put dude - as you say I think some people expect too much from this event, its only in its second year and I think that Kobus, fred and mike did an AWSOME job
Things like Queues and Theft are all a part of ANY large Festival/event - with that many people in one place you are bound to get some idiots
I am not defending this behaviour in anyway and I would be PISSED if anything of mine went missing - Just be thankfull you didn't find a LOCAL DRUNK in your bed at 4am on sunday like I did
I think we need to give Kobus and the crew some love for their efforts - think of it like this : this year was even better than last year so next year should be UNF$^KINBELIEVABLE
No pressure guys
Also just my 2 cents
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wolfswest
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #7 on:
July 09, 2008, 14:14:01 pm »
I got myself a vip card in a strange way but how do you normally get a vip pass? Pay more, ...?
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:31:46 pm »
Quote from: Russell Ritchie on July 08, 2008, 22:32:25 pm
things wrong with EBI2
1) Too short
2) The rain on saturday
3) Miss Bugin was already spoken for !
These seem to be valid points, for sure. Any pictures of Miss Bug-In, perhaps?
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Prowagen
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:50:12 pm »
Quote from: Udo on July 09, 2008, 12:39:02 pm
Please teach the track crew about doing it right , you can not put glue on a track during the day .......
The track crew, which I was part of do know how to do things right! I am the novice of the lot the other guys have massive amounts of experience, 1 of them being international race director of Santa Pod for 12 years, Another being the starter at Santa pod for 10 years, another track and fire crew of Avon park for 15 years and last but not least One of then ran Custom Car Street eliminator for years and runs the ultimate power drag racing series which is all top fule high level stuff!
So I am sure they can prep a track better than most especially for what are slow cars in their opinion, these guys are used to V8's and 7 second street cars!
As for the glue it was a waterbased product and can and was applied to the track without problems, I think these guys know what they are doing and are very capable of running events!
As for the show in general 1 word Awesome!
I think prople are just being a little fussy, you cannnot start to comprehend the work that goes into putting on a show like this! I think Kobus and everyone involved did a fantastic job. You try and put a show of that scale on! You would then realise how hard it is and quit your whinging!
Rob.
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:51:44 pm »
Quote from: empicolector on July 09, 2008, 14:46:48 pm
did you see that on the event
before the beer
and after the beer
the most important that nobody was hurt
Holy crap was that the UK bus with the Turbo motor?
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:52:53 pm »
Quote from: empicolector on July 09, 2008, 14:46:48 pm
did you see that on the event
before the beer
and after the beer
the most important that nobody was hurt
F*ck, what happened?
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Lee.C
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:53:24 pm »
Quote from: Prowagen on July 09, 2008, 14:51:44 pm
Quote from: empicolector on July 09, 2008, 14:46:48 pm
did you see that on the event
before the beer
and after the beer
the most important that nobody was hurt
"Holy crap"
Just what I was thinking - where did that happen
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Fastbrit
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 14:53:43 pm »
Quote from: Prowagen on July 09, 2008, 14:51:44 pm
Holy crap was that the UK bus with the Turbo motor?
"Was" being the operative word...
Happened on a wet roundabout about 10 mins from the port at Dunkirk.
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j-f
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #14 on:
July 09, 2008, 14:54:04 pm »
I don't have had any problems with the organization. Maybe the camp site is not very comfortable. Try to sleep in a tent that is bend from 45°. Even after some Chimay beers.
Prices of the event seems correct regarding the quality of things.
I also received a vip pass that I normally shouldn't have. It gave me opportunities to live the show from the inside. But I will not frustrated to don't have one. I understand that it is necessary to put limits to prevent accidents on the track and if sponsor will makes some private party for good customers, it is normal.
Quote from: DKK_Fred on July 09, 2008, 14:31:46 pm
Quote from: Russell Ritchie on July 08, 2008, 22:32:25 pm
things wrong with EBI2
1) Too short
2) The rain on saturday
3) Miss Bugin was already spoken for !
These seem to be valid points, for sure. Any pictures of Miss Bug-In, perhaps?
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j-f
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #15 on:
July 09, 2008, 14:58:40 pm »
What's happens to this Bus
That's a very sad news!
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Rennsurfer
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #16 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:02:39 pm »
J-F, thanks for the Miss Bug-In pic. Anyone got any more?
WOW, that's very sad about that Bus. I hate to ask... but how did that happen? On the track, or just driving?
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empicolector
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #17 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:06:08 pm »
don't really know hat happen to the bus and his driver
nobody was hurt thats all I know
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j-f
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July 09, 2008, 15:19:18 pm »
I just read on another forum that's accident happens in a roundabout? There was diesel spread on the street and the driver loosed control.
I don't know if it is true.
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richie
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July 09, 2008, 15:20:57 pm »
Quote from: empicolector on July 09, 2008, 15:06:08 pm
don't really know hat happen to the bus and his driver
nobody was hurt thats all I know
NO YOU DONT,BUT YOU ALREADY ACUSED HIM OF DRUNK DRIVING TWICE,I sorry but you are an arsehole for this
This happened 200kms away from the track on monday afternoon,when just outside Dunkirque ferry port on a wet road covered in diesel fuel,its sad enough that this happened but for people to put misinformation and lies is really SICK,you need to remove your post,appologise and go away
Richie webb
For th rest,Chris and his passenger were ok,just a little bruised but nothing serious
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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July 09, 2008, 15:25:59 pm »
Well said...
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #21 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:28:08 pm »
I don't have the full story of what happened to the bus but from what I know it happened near the port leaving France on the way home and was caused by wet roads, some diesel and a curb which is the reason for the damaged wheel (/s). There were two people in it when it happened and both are fine though they were obviously shaken up. As I understand it the Bus will live again and having met its owner a couple of times I have no reason to believe it won't. Everything that went into making such a good van in the first place (it's without a doubt amongst the best in the UK) will serve it well for the 'tidy up'. You don't get a bus that good without some determination. A horrible end to the weekend in one way but another way of looking at it is it could have been far worse. All the best to those involved in the accident and good luck to the owner getting it straightened out again.
In short, it's an older vehicle that, as we all know is much more difficult to drive than a modern car and he was unfortunate enough to have been caught out by difficult driving conditions.
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JeePee/DVK
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #22 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:33:02 pm »
Quote from: 67-indeed/DVK on July 09, 2008, 10:49:45 am
may i add:
-one hour queues to get in during peak hours when there's 2 people at the gates
-reserved camping and show n shine spots that weren't reserved at all.
-ridiculous sanitary facilities, you could count the showers on one hand.
-where's the love for the show n shine? it looked like a parking area with only 3 club stand
DFL, DKT and ours.
-who invented the ridiculous idea of VIP-ing this and that?? there was literally f*ck to do. you needed a VIP pass to see the cars, to meet people, to have a drink.
-theft at the camping site
-what's up with all the french commentary, i thought we were at the
european
bug-in.
Amen!!
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Lee.C
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #23 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:36:11 pm »
Quote from: richie,uk on July 09, 2008, 15:20:57 pm
Quote from: empicolector on July 09, 2008, 15:06:08 pm
don't really know hat happen to the bus and his driver
nobody was hurt thats all I know
NO YOU DONT,BUT YOU ALREADY ACUSED HIM OF DRUNK DRIVING TWICE,I sorry but you are an arsehole for this
This happened 200kms away from the track on monday afternoon,when just outside Dunkirque ferry port on a wet road covered in diesel fuel,its sad enough that this happened but for people to put misinformation and lies is really SICK,you need to remove your post,appologise and go away
Richie webb
For th rest,Chris and his passenger were ok,just a little bruised but nothing serious
Well put..... glad everyone is ok even if the van ain't
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speedwell
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #24 on:
July 09, 2008, 15:38:16 pm »
Quote from: DKK_Fred on July 09, 2008, 15:02:39 pm
J-F, thanks for the Miss Bug-In pic. Anyone got any more?
WOW, that's very sad about that Bus. I hate to ask... but how did that happen? On the track, or just driving?
mark here's one for you
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Jøran Larssen
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #25 on:
July 09, 2008, 16:05:12 pm »
I am obviously one of the guys that misunderstood the VIP pass system.
I actually had a drag race ticket as well, but never used it as I was not able to bring my car. I also had a ticket that CSP sent me, and when arriving to EBI, I received a VIP pass from the crew at the gate, but with no explanation of what kind of limits this pass might have.
I did walk around in the gasser garage area and other “limited” areas having a great time the whole weekend, and no one did tell me if I was “trespassing” or not. If I did, I do apologize.
Anyway, I had a great time, and would like to send a big thank you to everyone involved with a super show, the guys behind it, and all of the people attending.
I will definately be back next year!!
Jøran
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July 09, 2008, 16:20:05 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on July 09, 2008, 15:38:16 pm
mark here's one for you
Right on, Fabian! Leave it to Dyno to be at the right place at the right time. Good on both of ya.
(edit) Sheesh... I'm slow. I just realized who she is. That's Monica, Kobus' girlfriend, if I'm not mistaken.
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flatfire
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Re: things wrong with EBI2
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Reply #27 on:
July 09, 2008, 16:32:45 pm »
A major bummer about Chris's split. Very upsetting. A great bloke and such a sweet van.
The weekend was great fun and something to savour seeing cal look/race car/gasser legends.
We were pitted beside the race control tower and wondered why the original designers of the race circuit didn't make the entrance section a 1/4 of a mile with a run off.
What were they thinking of.
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July 09, 2008, 16:39:09 pm »
here're 2 mores
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July 09, 2008, 16:53:38 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on July 09, 2008, 16:39:09 pm
here're 2 mores
This is a "Things wrong"topic Fabian.
And with Miss Big-in is nothing wrong,I think.
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