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« on: August 24, 2008, 22:50:04 pm » |
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I have been wondering about this for a while now - Does anyone out there Make the brackets to convert a swing axle pan to IRS  Also any other info on what else is involved would be great - Thanks guys  |
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Lee.C
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2008, 23:36:44 pm » |
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its ok I found some - but any info on this conversion would be a great help |
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 07:33:57 am » |
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i have done a conversion like this in the past, carefull measuring is essential or you end up with non alignable rear end
best is to use a jig
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 08:09:11 am » |
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I think mine are from csp (not sure), and we used a homemade-system to put them correct onto my pan. Friends have made that system on an automatic-pan, so the maesurement is allways correct. The most difficult job is the cutting  , cause you've to cut verry close to the handbrakecable. Succes!!! gr Wout |
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 17:45:49 pm » |
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Hi Lee, i wanted to do the same, but you NEED a jig. I just scored a automatic pan so i just have to weld in the clutch-cable pipe. I know youre expensive problem. (shortened pan)  |
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2008, 18:27:48 pm » |
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Hi Lee, i wanted to do the same, but you NEED a jig. I just scored a automatic pan so i just have to weld in the clutch-cable pipe. I know youre expensive problem. (shortened pan) Who said this was for a "shortened" pan  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2008, 19:00:48 pm » |
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I've got a pair of bracket's knocking about down the garage if you need them  |
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2008, 21:11:08 pm » |
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ohhhh I'll take those off your hands buddy - drop me a PM |
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2008, 21:50:41 pm » |
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I`ve just made a jig for doing this on my oval`s new pan, easy to do if you have access to an irs pan to begin with.
I can take a pic for you to show how simple it is if that helps?
the `66 nearly done then??
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2008, 22:00:04 pm » |
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I`ve just made a jig for doing this on my oval`s new pan, easy to do if you have access to an irs pan to begin with.
I can take a pic for you to show how simple it is if that helps?
the `66 nearly done then??
Cool thanks dude - pic's would be AWSOME I have seen several "jigs" on the www, you can even buy one on thesamba.com http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=281289I was also wondering about 944 trailing arms - do they fit straight in |
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2008, 22:39:54 pm » |
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944 bits are pretty much a straight fit BUT you need to use the correct age / selection of bits. I`m sure there will be a couple of loungers who can advise exacty what you need  |
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2008, 23:24:59 pm » |
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944 bits are pretty much a straight fit BUT you need to use the correct age / selection of bits. I`m sure there will be a couple of loungers who can advise exacty what you need COOOL - anyone have some more info |
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2008, 00:41:56 am » |
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This is for the '66 I assume? If so, why?
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2008, 01:17:40 am » |
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This is for the '66 I assume? If so, why?
One answer - 901 5 speed |
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2008, 01:25:21 am » |
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This is for the '66 I assume? If so, why?
One answer - 901 5 speed Ahhh Have you driven a car with a dogleg 1st gear yet? You might want to give it a try first as it seems people either love them or hate them. I myself, am part of the former |
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 02:09:14 am » |
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This is for the '66 I assume? If so, why?
One answer - 901 5 speed Ahhh Have you driven a car with a dogleg 1st gear yet? You might want to give it a try first as it seems people either love them or hate them. I myself, am part of the former Thanks for the info dude - I was not aware of the dogleg 1st but I am sure I will be able to handle it it just seems like a REALLY good idea to me - it looks like I will have a similar set up to S.Bleecher - 2110 and a 5 speed plus NO MORE crappy rear hub seals  |
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2008, 06:46:23 am » |
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i have a 901 fivespeed in my oval with narrowed 944 rear arms/brakes (on an irs pan)
the steel arms fit without mods if you change the bushing to a type 1 bushing /the one that centers the bolt in the bracket)
the aluminum arms fit too, but the are wider (a lot, two differnet versions), you need wider fenders
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2008, 07:14:08 am » |
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For the most part even stock beetle IRS A Arms are wider than short swingaxle. I didn't realise this until recently so I need to get the arms narrowed and fit slightly wider wings in order for my slicks to have enough clearence!
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2008, 07:37:19 am » |
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Dude i have a Jig that i can lend out or was thinking of selling if anybody wants to take it of my hands !! Only in south london and have done 4 conversions from SA to IRS Rob |
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2008, 07:39:51 am » |
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Dude i have a Jig that i can lend out or was thinking of selling if anybody wants to take it of my hands !! Only in south london and have done 4 conversions from SA to IRS Rob Sounds good to me dude PM me your number and we'll sort something out |
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2008, 08:16:25 am » |
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Got a 901 in the back of mine , true the dog leg first can be a pain but once you've got used to it you will never go back  The 5th gear is just the best out on the motor way is just the best, cursing along at 2000 rpm just makes sense with ida's Im yet to try it out on the quarter mile , but with enough grunt behind me I should be able to launch in second |
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2008, 08:24:26 am » |
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i have a 901 fivespeed in my oval with narrowed 944 rear arms/brakes (on an irs pan)
the steel arms fit without mods if you change the bushing to a type 1 bushing /the one that centers the bolt in the bracket)
the aluminum arms fit too, but the are wider (a lot, two differnet versions), you need wider fenders
I gave the IRS and narrowed rear arms some thought when I dismantled my 'Vert 5 years ago and was going to use 17" Torque Thrust IIs with it but then changed the whole layout for the car. Got still this article in my bookmarks: http://www.germanlook.com/Html/Tech/Tech12NarrowingIRSArms.htm |
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2008, 09:27:08 am » |
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So Monkiboy's building a German Look car after all! Here's me thinking he was building the archetypal 1970s Cal Looker. |
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2008, 09:29:59 am » |
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2008, 10:41:58 am » |
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i have a 901 fivespeed in my oval with narrowed 944 rear arms/brakes (on an irs pan)
the steel arms fit without mods if you change the bushing to a type 1 bushing /the one that centers the bolt in the bracket)
the aluminum arms fit too, but the are wider (a lot, two differnet versions), you need wider fenders
I gave the IRS and narrowed rear arms some thought when I dismantled my 'Vert 5 years ago and was going to use 17" Torque Thrust IIs with it but then changed the whole layout for the car. Got still this article in my bookmarks: http://www.germanlook.com/Html/Tech/Tech12NarrowingIRSArms.htmi have narrowed a few sets of arms and have made a jig (morten aase runs my arms in his ghia) |
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2008, 11:04:49 am » |
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Yepp narrowed A arms are the way to go , had to narrow mine to get the wheels to sit in right , also re-jigged the shock mounts in the arm's too , what a pain that was  |
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2008, 18:10:47 pm » |
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Got a 901 in the back of mine , true the dog leg first can be a pain but once you've got used to it you will never go back Yup, I love that 2-3, 3-2 gear change |
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2008, 18:23:59 pm » |
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Got a 901 in the back of mine , true the dog leg first can be a pain but once you've got used to it you will never go back Yup, I love that 2-3, 3-2 gear change I'll get used to it don't worry guys |
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2008, 19:26:26 pm » |
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The 5th gear is just the best out on the motor way is just the best, cursing along at 2000 rpm just makes sense with ida's Cruising at 2000 rpm is lugging it. |
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2008, 20:35:10 pm » |
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The 5th gear is just the best out on the motor way is just the best, cursing along at 2000 rpm just makes sense with ida's Cruising at 2000 rpm is lugging it. I think he means for fuel consumpsion purposes - 3000rpm is low enough for me BUT 2000rpm is even better |
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