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« Reply #150 on: March 08, 2009, 09:03:41 am »

wow, that's a very cool car Shocked



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« Reply #151 on: March 08, 2009, 09:42:07 am »

today nicolas and i  have purged the brake line , now the brake drums work well  ,

we go for a ride in the 61 to test the brake  , the engine turn well , but when we go on the street no power/boost , the engine sound like  on 3 cylinders , we return to the house , to check the plugs wires , but no problem , we have check the ignition , nothing , may be the carbs

nicolas can you explain to the other the problem may be You will better know how to explain that I
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here're  some pictures of the car with his news shoes  Wink
Hi Fabs Car Looks Great With The Torkers Grin But those Caps have to Go!!  The Knock Offs Look Good talk To Rayburn He put them on His Car?
yes but john 've disc brake at the front and maybe the hub  on the disc are machined one , mine are original one and i need one for the speedo cable
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« Reply #152 on: March 08, 2009, 09:56:20 am »

I love the wheels!
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« Reply #153 on: March 08, 2009, 10:34:06 am »

Looks and sounds good sir!
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« Reply #154 on: March 08, 2009, 10:53:55 am »

thx for the words guys
i hope that we are going to find the problem of the loss of power when we drive
no one 've an idea about that Huh
iginition is good , plugs wires  give the power to the spark plugs  , the engine turn well when he does'nt drive and we're on the road he sound like  of an engine which turns on 3 cylinders
When I moved the engine, I moved the linkage without touching the regulation of  this one, nor in regulations of carburettors Huh
 keith can you help me Huh i suppose that you know the sprintkit , you're mr speedwell in england  Grin

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« Reply #155 on: March 08, 2009, 11:58:39 am »

looks great with the new wheels!!!
will take some pictures in spa, chimay, drag day...

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« Reply #156 on: March 08, 2009, 15:39:12 pm »

just got back from Austria and managed to pick up a copy of the super vw s on the way home , must say what a great spread Cool
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« Reply #157 on: March 08, 2009, 19:29:42 pm »

The wheels are lookin' good Fabs,but sorry can't help with the problem.
I hope someone can.
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« Reply #158 on: March 08, 2009, 19:35:57 pm »

With those tires, it wouldn´t hurt with a 2-3cm lowering in the rear. IMVHO.
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« Reply #159 on: March 08, 2009, 19:39:12 pm »

yes johnny but i will see if the car will down a little after driving the car some kms
the front is good for me  but the rear will be better a little bit lower
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« Reply #160 on: March 08, 2009, 20:56:11 pm »

allright, so i have been asked to help out with the brakes and that went good. JS is right it will need to be a bit lower at the rear, but the car has to settle first, allthough i doubt it will drop enough to get the stance just right.

but the biggest issue was indeed the engine.

i am not sure how sensitive these sprintkits are, but the engine wasn't happy, that is for sure. like fabs said the engine was turning OK at idle but as soon as you got going the car bogged and lost all power. it felt like a plugged idle jet or a distributor that was incorrectly set, but i havent any clue on how to adjust those britisch carbs. i have got some info from Fabs but part off it was missing (speedwell fitting instructions and they refer to pamlphlet G 66/SB211 which i haven't found and makes things even worse. so any help on these carbs is welcome)
we tried to set the distributor right, but that didn't change anything the lack off power under load stayed. i wish i could have worked on the engine longer, but i had other things to do, so hopefully your input can help Fabs out.


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« Reply #161 on: March 08, 2009, 21:00:00 pm »

thx for the help nico  Wink
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« Reply #162 on: March 08, 2009, 21:16:29 pm »

I have a progressive carb if you want Fab  Grin
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« Reply #163 on: March 08, 2009, 21:20:39 pm »

I have a progressive carb if you want Fab  Grin
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no thx j-f
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« Reply #164 on: March 08, 2009, 23:37:56 pm »

allright, so i have been asked to help out with the brakes and that went good. JS is right it will need to be a bit lower at the rear, but the car has to settle first, allthough i doubt it will drop enough to get the stance just right.

but the biggest issue was indeed the engine.

i am not sure how sensitive these sprintkits are, but the engine wasn't happy, that is for sure. like fabs said the engine was turning OK at idle but as soon as you got going the car bogged and lost all power. it felt like a plugged idle jet or a distributor that was incorrectly set, but i havent any clue on how to adjust those britisch carbs. i have got some info from Fabs but part off it was missing (speedwell fitting instructions and they refer to pamlphlet G 66/SB211 which i haven't found and makes things even worse. so any help on these carbs is welcome)
we tried to set the distributor right, but that didn't change anything the lack off power under load stayed. i wish i could have worked on the engine longer, but i had other things to do, so hopefully your input can help Fabs out.




Sounds very much like an air leak guys - I know there are a number of "sealing" surfaces involved in these kits/manifolds - Just a thought guys  Smiley
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« Reply #165 on: March 09, 2009, 08:41:22 am »

 I also have think about air leaks and try to locate it by spraying "start Pilote" where the carbs seals on the manifold and don't notice an idle variation.

Engine start easily and idle well but revs lazily. 
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« Reply #166 on: March 10, 2009, 09:58:08 am »

sorry to hear about your problems fabs.
perhaps shooting a small video clip would help for people here to help you?

good luck!
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« Reply #167 on: March 14, 2009, 22:20:34 pm »

sorry to hear about your problems fabs.
perhaps shooting a small video clip would help for people here to help you?

good luck!
died here's a video from today
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/xP5PrXGlAGs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/xP5PrXGlAGs</a>
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« Reply #168 on: March 14, 2009, 22:47:00 pm »

today i change the  4 spark plugs , and the spark plugs wire , the belt , I adjusted again valves and ignition
and With j-f we defused(unsettled) a stromberg (the right one) to blow him with the compressed air, then we went back up him and there....... no difference  Cry  except that the carbs on the right (the one we defused)  seems to work correctly , and now the problem seems to come from the left carbs , of or I am going to defuse him and to blow him with the compressed air and to go back up him and if it does not work, I shall appeal to a knowledge which is specialized in the English cars and the English carburators

 Undecided
 no one have a idea Huh
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« Reply #169 on: March 14, 2009, 23:13:06 pm »

today i change the  4 spark plugs , and the spark plugs wire , the belt , I adjusted again valves and ignition
and With j-f we defused(unsettled) a stromberg (the right one) to blow him with the compressed air, then we went back up him and there....... no difference  Cry  except that the carbs on the right (the one we defused)  seems to work correctly , and now the problem seems to come from the left carbs , of or I am going to defuse him and to blow him with the compressed air and to go back up him and if it does not work, I shall appeal to a knowledge which is specialized in the English cars and the English carburators

 Undecided
 no one have a idea Huh

Why only "service" or "defuse" ONE carb  Huh I would have just serviced the PAIR just to be on the safe side  Smiley

I still think it sounds like an air leak Undecided Smiley OR it might be worth checking the fuel pump - your one can be disassembled and "serviced" OR "defused" Wink
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« Reply #170 on: March 15, 2009, 09:24:16 am »

Fuel comes correctly, there is a clear filter and you see that it flows regularly.
We serviced just one because it became late and were hopping for an improvement. Bad luck  Tongue

I'm also more thinking about an air leak. The right carb makes a "good" noise, but the left carb makes a different one.
 
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« Reply #171 on: March 15, 2009, 14:21:30 pm »

Fuel comes correctly, there is a clear filter and you see that it flows regularly.
We serviced just one because it became late and were hopping for an improvement. Bad luck  Tongue

I'm also more thinking about an air leak. The right carb makes a "good" noise, but the left carb makes a different one.
 

I would suggest removing both carbs, manifolds, balance tube etc - Clean ALL sealing surfaces (also clean out the left carb properly) then refit everything with a SMALL amount of silicon sealant  Smiley
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« Reply #172 on: March 15, 2009, 19:41:36 pm »

That's the way we will take.  Wink

Today, some people also suggest to check a leak at the fuel pump.

I also wonder how to check the float level on this carbs? Needle valves are 1.5 but I don't know how to check if the carbs have the same float level? Same method as weber? And which height?

For the sealant I normally use a stick, like that.

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« Reply #173 on: March 15, 2009, 20:36:23 pm »

i don't know if it help someone , but here's the fitting instruction from the sprintkit

and thx for the help guys i hope after cleaning the second carbs the problem will be resolved

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« Reply #174 on: March 15, 2009, 20:37:07 pm »

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« Reply #175 on: March 15, 2009, 20:41:40 pm »

 Smiley
i know that i don't have the right needles on my carbs , i need the 9x needle , this needle is for the 1200cc
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« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2009, 20:42:49 pm »

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« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2009, 20:47:31 pm »

 Smiley
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« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2009, 20:51:19 pm »

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« Reply #179 on: March 16, 2009, 12:33:04 pm »

COOL old instruction dude  Smiley
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