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SlingShot
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« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2008, 04:15:01 am »
The current bid is $11,400.00

Going Once.....

I agree 12K would be a steal.
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« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2008, 23:19:45 pm »
 Not bad investment ( for the seller ) Considering the wheel where priced originally $49.50 each..

BTW: Shipping charges should be very cheap , they only weight in @ 8 lbs. each. Cheesy
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« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2008, 00:05:44 am »
I think if they sell for less than 15k somebody is getting a deal. With the replicas on the scene people have forgotten how rare BRM's & wide 5 Americans are. In the 80's & early 90's seeing a set outside of the Berg's was like seeing a unicorn. Now people are jaded & think they are everywhere.   If I had the means I would buy them in a heartbeat...
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« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am »
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).
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« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2008, 00:33:41 am »
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).
Art G uses his, & I use mine, I would'nt do any off roading and I am pretty careful about where I point my car. They have held up pretty good for the nearly 20yrs I have owned my particular set. You just have to be careful. I keep aluminum wheels on the car most of the time now, because I am just tired of polishing them.  Bill
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« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2008, 00:44:39 am »
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on October 10, 2008, 00:33:41 am
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).
, I would'nt do any off roading

No?
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« Reply #66 on: October 10, 2008, 00:53:04 am »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on October 10, 2008, 00:44:39 am

Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on October 10, 2008, 00:33:41 am

, I would'nt do any off roading

No?

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That's disapointing Sad Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2008, 01:06:39 am »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on October 10, 2008, 00:44:39 am
Quote from: Bill Schwimmer on October 10, 2008, 00:33:41 am
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).
, I would'nt do any off roading

No?
Just on the grass
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2008, 01:21:18 am »
Don't say grass around Danny.
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« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2008, 01:23:13 am »
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).



  I think the answer was right underneath your very own nose... Myself and a few other members drive/race their car with real magnesium wheels from time to time. If you had any type of concerns or questions,  It would when wheels were over loaded of usage ( off roading like Bill said ) and if they where exposed around water/humidity for long periods of time. not the ones sitting in a ( NOS ) dry free environment.

Being that the wheels are 90% old tech magnesium vs. today's new tech magnesium. I would still have to say, there is no doubt in my mind they are strong, and rigidity...( See: Berg race car 40+ years of racing ). Wink

BTW: most horrid stories you hear say, are surrounding the EMPI 2pc wheels. If you stare at them long enough they will crack.. Cheesy
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« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2008, 01:26:45 am »
Quote from: ST DRAGN on October 10, 2008, 01:23:13 am
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).



  I think the answer was right underneath your very own nose... Myself and a few other members drive/race their car with real magnesium wheels from time to time. If you had any type of concerns or questions,  It would when wheels were over loaded of usage ( off roading like Bill said ) and if they where exposed around water/humidity for long periods of time. not the ones sitting in a ( NOS ) dry free environment.

Being that the wheels are 90% old tech magnesium vs. today's new tech magnesium. I would still have to say, there is no doubt in my mind they are strong, and rigidity...( See: Berg race car 40+ years of racing ). Wink

BTW: most horrid stories you hear say, are surrounding the EMPI 2pc wheels. If you stare at them long enough they will crack.. Cheesy


                                                          Specifically the back halves.
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« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2008, 01:36:04 am »
Quote from: John Rayburn on October 10, 2008, 01:26:45 am
Quote from: ST DRAGN on October 10, 2008, 01:23:13 am
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).



  I think the answer was right underneath your very own nose... Myself and a few other members drive/race their car with real magnesium wheels from time to time. If you had any type of concerns or questions,  It would when wheels were over loaded of usage ( off roading like Bill said ) and if they where exposed around water/humidity for long periods of time. not the ones sitting in a ( NOS ) dry free environment.

Being that the wheels are 90% old tech magnesium vs. today's new tech magnesium. I would still have to say, there is no doubt in my mind they are strong, and rigidity...( See: Berg race car 40+ years of racing ). Wink

BTW: most horrid stories you hear say, are surrounding the EMPI 2pc wheels. If you stare at them long enough they will crack.. Cheesy


                                                          Specifically the back halves.



Just add Blue dye ink: and see the spider webs come alive... Grin
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« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2008, 03:02:12 am »
Quote from: ST DRAGN on October 10, 2008, 01:36:04 am
Quote from: John Rayburn on October 10, 2008, 01:26:45 am
Quote from: ST DRAGN on October 10, 2008, 01:23:13 am
Quote from: bugnut68 on October 10, 2008, 00:15:52 am
Getting back to my earlier concern about durability, how well does magnesium hold up through the decades?  10 plus grand for a set of wheels that would just sit around to look at wouldn't seem worth it to me, if they weren't useable (that is, useable in a safe manner).



  I think the answer was right underneath your very own nose... Myself and a few other members drive/race their car with real magnesium wheels from time to time. If you had any type of concerns or questions,  It would when wheels were over loaded of usage ( off roading like Bill said ) and if they where exposed around water/humidity for long periods of time. not the ones sitting in a ( NOS ) dry free environment.

Being that the wheels are 90% old tech magnesium vs. today's new tech magnesium. I would still have to say, there is no doubt in my mind they are strong, and rigidity...( See: Berg race car 40+ years of racing ). Wink

BTW: most horrid stories you hear say, are surrounding the EMPI 2pc wheels. If you stare at them long enough they will crack.. Cheesy


                                                          Specifically the back halves.



Just add Blue dye ink: and see the spider webs come alive... Grin
                                                              I can't find the cracks on mine, Art.
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Jim Ratto
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« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2008, 03:06:14 am »
try the other piece.  still on drum?
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John Rayburn
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« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2008, 03:29:54 am »
That back half was still bolted to the front half. The front half was unscathed. My fender, however matched the back half.
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2008, 04:17:36 am »
Enough of the wheel stories, what about the grass ?--------------------Well ?
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« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2008, 05:07:16 am »
Quote from: danny gabbard on October 10, 2008, 04:17:36 am
Enough of the wheel stories, what about the grass ?--------------------Well ?








Wow what a coincidinc .......  guesss what I am doing right now Shocked
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danny gabbard
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« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2008, 05:14:53 am »
Buying over priced mag wheels ? Maybe ?
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« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2008, 05:15:56 am »
Quote from: danny gabbard on October 10, 2008, 05:14:53 am
Buying over priced mag wheels ? Maybe ?









NO Wink
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Jim Ratto
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« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2008, 05:31:40 am »
mowing the green grass?
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SlingShot
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« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2008, 03:22:14 am »
$13,000 going once !
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« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2008, 12:15:21 pm »
hey guys,
i was wondering...
since they were allready rare in the 80ies,
how long were they made? can nobody get hold of the original molds? Smiley
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« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2008, 13:07:31 pm »
ks tried Wink  Cool
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« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2008, 16:20:46 pm »
Quote from: ruff on October 12, 2008, 12:15:21 pm

how long were they made? can nobody get hold of the original molds? Smiley
the wheels were first seen by the public at the end of February 66 and would soon become a big seller in the USA where the benefit of light weight was not lost on the drag race fraternity.

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chris morley own 2 prototype ( Huh ) wheels those one were on the gtv on the cover on the 1st annual volkswagen and on the inch pincher one
 watch the spoke there's a liitle cut in   Shocked
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« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2008, 17:53:03 pm »
Another one of these original four BRMs (prototype) has surfaced in Florida.... No photos yet.
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Sarge
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« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2008, 18:20:10 pm »
I'm sittin' here starin' at the BRM's on that green car... I'm sorry, but those are BUTT UGLY!!  No wonder I hated them back then.  Let the stoning begin....
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« Reply #86 on: October 12, 2008, 18:39:16 pm »
Quote from: Fastbrit on October 02, 2008, 23:11:36 pm
No matter what they go for, they're still ugly wheels. Smiley

YES! 13 Grand. Rediculos !
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Tony M
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« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2008, 19:08:45 pm »
Unless your buying wheels for your F-1 car 13k for a set of wheels - You need your head checked - plus they are ugly.
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« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2008, 19:24:24 pm »
Quote from: Sarge on October 12, 2008, 18:20:10 pm
Let the stoning begin....

Are you supplying?  Grin
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« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2008, 20:41:04 pm »
Quote from: Sarge on October 12, 2008, 18:20:10 pm
I'm sittin' here starin' at the BRM's on that green car... I'm sorry, but those are BUTT UGLY!!  No wonder I hated them back then.  Let the stoning begin....

Yeah, '65 Chevelle wheel rip-offs  Grin


Quote from: RACE HEAD on October 12, 2008, 19:08:45 pm
Unless your buying wheels for your F-1 car 13k for a set of wheels - You need your head checked - plus they are ugly.

If someone else has budget for 13K$ wheels, I am happy for him/her, nothing away from me even I cannot afford them..
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