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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #270 on:
February 07, 2010, 20:52:59 pm »
Quote from: gyles on January 05, 2010, 09:01:03 am
Quote from: All Torque on January 04, 2010, 20:48:15 pm
Good point on swapping tyres. My can ran so much better on the new 8 inch Mickey Thompsons - coupled with the new rear suspension setup the car went a whole second quicker! 11.3 down to 10.3. Get them sticky tyres sorted Gyles! I have a spare pair of 6 inch Ercos you can borrow...
Cheers for the offer Matt, but I have spare 6" rims already. Just don't leave your shop unlocked without keeping an eye on those MT's!
You would need a ladder and a big spanner to have them Mickey Ts away Gyles... I still reckon you should have a go with those Hoosier low profiles!
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #271 on:
February 08, 2010, 14:32:20 pm »
Quote from: All Torque on February 07, 2010, 20:52:59 pm
You would need a ladder and a big spanner to have them Mickey Ts away Gyles... I still reckon you should have a go with those Hoosier low profiles!
I take it you must be back after spending the proceeds from the sale of your Ivory Back Scratcher.
Might look a bit gay on my car, but I'm keen to give them Hoosiers a go.
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Tekken
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #272 on:
February 08, 2010, 18:32:33 pm »
Congrats Matt,awsome work-looks really good!
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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #273 on:
February 13, 2010, 10:33:36 am »
Thanks Stian! Are you coming to the VolksWorld show this year? It's going to be a whole bunch of fun, and there are some amazing cars being debuted this year
Regards, matt
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #274 on:
February 16, 2010, 14:00:51 pm »
Big up for an excellent feature in Volksworld
Cool pictures and a great write up of an inspiring car.
You and the Fonz must have been at the back of the 'shop bent over rubbing like mad to get it looking so good
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RUSS74GHIA
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #275 on:
February 16, 2010, 14:16:50 pm »
Superb write-up, and yes, definately a 9 in there.
I had a pervy thigh-rubbing moment myself, while I looked over this at Open Sport Nationals at Shakey last year - a great bit of kit, you should be very proud of yourself
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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #276 on:
February 17, 2010, 08:45:27 am »
Thanks guys! I am amazed how shiny the car ended up after a week's worth of Doctor Detail's (the Fonz) buffing! I absolutely love the side-on shot - I need to blow that up and hang it on my wall. Excellent shots and superb article by Mike Pye, well chuffed'
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Martin
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #277 on:
February 17, 2010, 12:18:26 pm »
Its a credit to you
best feature ive read in ages.
Martin
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I've still got that pound
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #278 on:
February 17, 2010, 14:34:53 pm »
Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda,
I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya...
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #279 on:
February 17, 2010, 20:12:53 pm »
Quote from: andy M. on February 17, 2010, 14:34:53 pm
Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda,
I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya...
Andy
Will it double as a 'chute at the other end?
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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #280 on:
February 17, 2010, 20:43:36 pm »
Quote from: andy M. on February 17, 2010, 14:34:53 pm
Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda,
I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya...
Andy
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #281 on:
February 17, 2010, 20:57:10 pm »
Well done Matt, have not seen the feature yet but no doubt it looks very good!!
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #282 on:
February 17, 2010, 23:49:18 pm »
What a bug, its worthy of a feature in an art exhibition but packs a punch like Mohammed Ali.
Its awesome, well done Matt.
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Tekken
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #283 on:
February 20, 2010, 22:01:06 pm »
Quote from: All Torque on February 13, 2010, 10:33:36 am
Thanks Stian! Are you coming to the VolksWorld show this year? It's going to be a whole bunch of fun, and there are some amazing cars being debuted this year
Regards, matt
Hey Matt.If I get time and can afford it I'll come and visit,I'm sure it's going to be a great event.
Regards Stian
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Martin Greaves
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #284 on:
March 16, 2010, 23:38:43 pm »
Well done Matt
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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #285 on:
March 16, 2010, 23:43:14 pm »
Cheers Boom Boom
A brief update...
Well, Marco has been down visiting for a week eating me out of house and home as usual!
. Pulled the motor from the car for a spring freshen up. Marco set about stripping it down to check for any problems. There was an issue with the lobes of the cam slightly flatting off, so the cam was replaced along with a new set of lifters. The valve springs were also replaced along with a full set of engine bearings. All looking good!
Back in the car it was time to hook up the MSD DIS2 I had lurking in a box under the bench. Time for a trip to the rolling road and a full remap and increase in boost pressure. Firstly, there was a couple of issues that needed ironing out. The software on the Wolf Ecu had a couple of glitches. Firstly, my second set of injectors has not been working at all, even though the laptop says they are! Secondly, deep in the software is a boost limit engine cut system that has somehow switched itself on! This was the reason why my car had this strange misfire last year on every run up the quarter mile. An upgrade to the latest Wolf software patched these bugs and we could finally go past 18 psi on the dyno. Up to 20 psi the power was increasing by 10 hp per psi of boost as it did last year, but as soon as we reached 22 psi the turbo got into its groove and started hitting its efficiency range. At 25 psi we called it a day because it had made some serious power for a 2.1 liter motor and we didn't want a pile of scrap scattered around the floor. The net result? 573 horsepower (503 hp at the wheels!) and 440 ft/lbs of torque! OMG! Interestingly, with the mapping so much better lower down the engine now makes so much more hp at lower rpm. At 5,000 rpm, the engine is making nearly 200 hp more than it did last year!
Big up to Marco for the engine work and mapping - once again the genius has delivered the goods! You da man Big Dog!
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Lee.C
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #286 on:
March 17, 2010, 00:02:59 am »
Quote from: Martin on February 17, 2010, 12:18:26 pm
Its a credit to you
best feature ive read in ages.
Martin
ps
I've still got that pound
lol
Same here - cool feature on a cool car
p.s a genuine 500 bhp at the wheels from a 2ltr 8v WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #287 on:
March 17, 2010, 07:01:34 am »
Nice work fella!
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kev d
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #288 on:
March 17, 2010, 08:21:28 am »
Quote from: All Torque on March 16, 2010, 23:43:14 pm
Cheers Boom Boom
A brief update...
Well, Marco has been down visiting for a week eating me out of house and home as usual!
. Pulled the motor from the car for a spring freshen up. Marco set about stripping it down to check for any problems. There was an issue with the lobes of the cam slightly flatting off, so the cam was replaced along with a new set of lifters. The valve springs were also replaced along with a full set of engine bearings. All looking good!
Back in the car it was time to hook up the MSD DIS2 I had lurking in a box under the bench. Time for a trip to the rolling road and a full remap and increase in boost pressure. Firstly, there was a couple of issues that needed ironing out. The software on the Wolf Ecu had a couple of glitches. Firstly, my second set of injectors has not been working at all, even though the laptop says they are! Secondly, deep in the software is a boost limit engine cut system that has somehow switched itself on! This was the reason why my car had this strange misfire last year on every run up the quarter mile. An upgrade to the latest Wolf software patched these bugs and we could finally go past 18 psi on the dyno. Up to 20 psi the power was increasing by 10 hp as it did last year, but as soon as we reached 22 psi the turbo got into its groove and started hitting its efficiency range. At 25 psi we called it a day because it had made some serious power for a 2.1 liter motor and we didn't want a pile of scrap scattered around the floor. The net result? 573 horsepower (503 hp at the wheels!) and 440 ft/lbs of torque! OMG! Interestingly, with the mapping so much better lower down the engine now makes so much more hp at lower rpm. At 5,000 rpm, the engine is making nearly 200 hp more than it did last year!
Big up to Marco for the engine work and mapping - once again the genius has delivered the goods! You da man Big Dog!
Thats impressive
9's on the way soon..
Excellent feature in Volksworld too
Cheers,
Kev
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #289 on:
March 17, 2010, 08:37:12 am »
Holy Moly! Congrats with your good results Matt! Now all that is left is to bring it to SCC and race it hard
Best rgs
BB
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #290 on:
March 17, 2010, 11:10:01 am »
Those are some really nice numbers! Good work guys. You definately have the power to do whatever you want.
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #291 on:
March 17, 2010, 14:55:50 pm »
I also must admit ive not bought the mag in a while, always the same old imo but glad i did
side on shot looks particularly ace. good right up too, fair play
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #292 on:
March 17, 2010, 16:11:37 pm »
I haven't seen the feature yet but gee I am really impressed with those numbers.Hope to see you race this season.
Michael
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #293 on:
March 17, 2010, 18:06:15 pm »
Matt
Bet your over the moon with that dyno sheet
good luck for next year
regards Ron
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Fasterbrit
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #294 on:
March 17, 2010, 18:45:13 pm »
Thanks guys! Stoked with the feature and the new hp figures! Better buy a titanium codpiece for the new race season!
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #295 on:
March 17, 2010, 21:53:43 pm »
very impressive Matt! Nice score..
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RUSS74GHIA
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #296 on:
March 17, 2010, 21:54:33 pm »
Quote from: All Torque on March 17, 2010, 18:45:13 pm
Thanks guys! Stoked with the feature and the new hp figures! Better buy some Teflon undercrackers for the new race season!
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AntLockyer
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #297 on:
March 17, 2010, 22:45:10 pm »
Read the article very good indeed (mostly just drooled over the pics).
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richie
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #298 on:
March 17, 2010, 23:29:39 pm »
Well looks like
the little engine that thought it could,can
That really shows its in the combo of parts,not the most expensive that gets the job done,good effort to both of you
cheers richie
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Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress...
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Reply #299 on:
March 18, 2010, 00:01:30 am »
Cheers guys! It's going to be a whole new ball game driving the car now. The motor has always had good potential as Marco has built a superb engine with some beautiful internals. I was properly impressed with the work done to the heads. It was good to see the motor laid out in component form to take it all in.
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