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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2008, 21:01:12 pm »

I just re did my entire system. Used factory BMW 8mm hose from pump to Malpassi regulator and ABA Swedish fuel injection clamps (for Mercedes/BMW CIS inject). My feed to pump is AN-6 parker fittings
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 22:03:46 pm »

looks pretty cool pal!
still hooked up to the holley blue?
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2008, 22:27:08 pm »

I just re did my entire system. Used factory BMW 8mm hose from pump to Malpassi regulator and ABA Swedish fuel injection clamps (for Mercedes/BMW CIS inject). My feed to pump is AN-6 parker fittings
Jim, i mailed a message to your business address.
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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2008, 22:29:29 pm »

It's not the pump I was thinking of.  I was thinking of an EFI pump.  If you're stuck w/ AN fittings, you an use an AN x barb adapter ad a 2" length of hose.......then run your AN stuff.  I can mock up something here at work, and give you a visual if needed.

I'm not stuck with anything yet (except now the pump has been bought), just want to put together something that works. I'll defintely be going through you for this job, so let me know what you come up with.
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2008, 22:41:20 pm »

Here are a couple of items that might prove useful. 



A short piece of hose, and AN from there on out. 
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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2008, 04:23:50 am »

looks pretty cool pal!
still hooked up to the holley blue?

Red pump.
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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2008, 15:57:13 pm »

I just re did my entire system. Used factory BMW 8mm hose from pump to Malpassi regulator and ABA Swedish fuel injection clamps (for Mercedes/BMW CIS inject). My feed to pump is AN-6 parker fittings

Now that just sounds fancy Wink

On a slightly related topic, is there anything out there that flows like a Holley blue/red pump, but isn't so god damned noisy?? I hate those things...
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« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2008, 16:17:46 pm »

After a lot of research I decided to use a Mallory pump, filter & reg. I have heard that they are very quite.

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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2008, 17:21:44 pm »

I just re did my entire system. Used factory BMW 8mm hose from pump to Malpassi regulator and ABA Swedish fuel injection clamps (for Mercedes/BMW CIS inject). My feed to pump is AN-6 parker fittings

Now that just sounds fancy Wink

On a slightly related topic, is there anything out there that flows like a Holley blue/red pump, but isn't so god damned noisy?? I hate those things...

Yeah a Holley pump that is shock mounted. Try Mercedes part number 1039980111. I barely hear mine.
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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2008, 23:38:33 pm »

just a thought, but where could i order that part and any idea who it costs?
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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2008, 23:42:43 pm »

any Mercedes parts house or dealer. It's a common item (supports air cleaner housing on M103 engines in W124 cars)
can't be very expensive....
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« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2008, 01:46:50 am »

I used this...
http://www.holley.com/12-125.asp
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« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2008, 02:13:01 am »

The only time I hear my Holley fuel pump is when I flick the "on" switch. I kinda like that...If I can't hear that brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, something's wrong. I made my own dampers for it. After the car starts, who cares? Just do what you want.
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2008, 04:16:20 am »

MSD makes shock mounts like those. Both in 14" stud size and 10/32.

"Back in the day" I mounted my twin Holleys (70 Challenger) on a chunk of muffler hanger rubber. The kind that looks like tire plys. Mounted them so they didn't touch the body in any way. No noise that could be heard over the engine.

Rubber mounts like Jim pictured would be way cleaner.
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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2008, 23:40:43 pm »

if you wanna stay with vw parts , you can use the mounts that they used to mount the beetle oil cooler to the front of the mark 1 gti Wink
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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2008, 00:57:30 am »

We rubber mounted a Holley in my friends car years ago, the thing was still irritatingly loud as hell. Course it didn't have much of an interior to speak of.
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« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2008, 01:06:54 am »

that horrible irritating grinding noise is just a part of the starting proceedure .... if you dont hear it you misssed out the "start pump" part Wink

handy for trouble shooting too !!!

eg: if you can hear the pump , look to see you remembered to take the carb covers off  Grin
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« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2008, 22:30:08 pm »

that horrible irritating grinding noise is just a part of the starting proceedure .... if you dont hear it you misssed out the "start pump" part Wink

handy for trouble shooting too !!!

eg: if you can hear the pump , look to see you remembered to take the carb covers off  Grin

Kinda like launching a space shuttle or something. Stack covers off, check. Fuel pump on(wrrrr..), check. Ignition on, check. Fire, hold throttle at 2000rpm while engine warms. Good to go! Not the average street car. Grin I love it.

The only time I can barely hear my Holley red pump is when I am idling at a stop light. Otherwise all I hear is engine tunes!
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2009, 00:55:23 am »

i'm still trying to figure out what to do about the fuel system.

surely i can get a holley pump, a regulator and all of that. but i've got a lot of things left on the car so i wanna find a more economical way of dealing with the situation. so, i'm thinking of running an 8mm fitting on the tank with some 8mm hose to a CB rotary pump, then a fuel filter with 6.4mm (1/4") braided hose through the tunnel. and for the engine bay i'll use banjo fittings or get some fittings to feed the IDAs from the top fitting cos of possible clearance issues with the 181 fanhouse.

should that be any good?
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2009, 04:44:46 am »

....with 6.4mm (1/4") braided hose through the tunnel......
Pushing hose through the tunnel isn't easy.  Also hose does not last forever.  I recommend you put an 8mm hard line in the tunnel.  It is not difficult, even with the body on.
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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2009, 05:10:33 am »

Here is a nice Fitting for the stock VW Tank made by Marty Skaggs  comes in AN-6 or AN-8 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=711411
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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2009, 12:03:15 pm »

....with 6.4mm (1/4") braided hose through the tunnel......
Pushing hose through the tunnel isn't easy.  Also hose does not last forever.  I recommend you put an 8mm hard line in the tunnel.  It is not difficult, even with the body on.

and then clamp braided hose to it?
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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2009, 21:14:23 pm »

Sorry to jump on your post Zach but there is something I wonder about fuel pump and I thought it would fit here.
Is the "built in" filter on a Facet pump(http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/facet-silver-fuel-pump-533-fst1-571-p.asp) enought or does it need an "extern" fuel filter like another pump?
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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2009, 21:48:59 pm »

Sorry to jump on your post Zach but there is something I wonder about fuel pump and I thought it would fit here.
Is the "built in" filter on a Facet pump(http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/facet-silver-fuel-pump-533-fst1-571-p.asp) enought or does it need an "extern" fuel filter like another pump?

I have a similar pump and it also came with a small filter.  I use the supplied filter between the tank and pump in conjunction w/ the screen in the tank.  I also run a larger better quality filter after the pump, before it hits the engine bay. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2009, 02:37:26 am »

I just put a piece of -6 Teflon hose through the tunnel of a "63. The teflon will not get eaten up by race gas, or new gas with the ethanol. It is also claimed to have a higher flow rate then the neoprene.
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« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2009, 03:01:58 am »

Chassis looks nice dave. Is that one of the new bus 5 speeds?
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« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2009, 04:30:37 am »

Nice set up Dave......930cv's??  Yes, the teflon hose does flow better............Teflon has "Slick'em"!!  I don't think that's a Dupont registered term.  Grin  You can run sulfuric acid through teflon.....gasohol is no big deal. 
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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2009, 07:41:19 am »

....with 6.4mm (1/4") braided hose through the tunnel......
Pushing hose through the tunnel isn't easy.  Also hose does not last forever.  I recommend you put an 8mm hard line in the tunnel.  It is not difficult, even with the body on.
and then clamp braided hose to it?
There are plenty of ways to connect braided hose to a steel line.  Adaptors with compression fittings will do it.

Is that one of the new bus 5 speeds?
That's a 4 speed.
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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2009, 07:44:56 am »

Compression fittings?? With all of the better options out there, and compression fittings come up?
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2009, 16:50:54 pm »

as far as mechanical joints go , some compression types are good .
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