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« on: December 09, 2006, 19:55:09 pm »

Hey Guys I need some advice  Smiley I have just done a deal on some engine bits and it looks like I'm going to be building a 82x90.5 2110cc  with a pair of IDA's and some Scat D port heads, My plan is for this to be a full on STREET motor that will be matched to a 5 speed box and will see plenty of miles so whats your advice guys Huh What cam  Huh which make of crank  Huh ratio'd lifters  Huh push rods  Huh Ignition  Huh Rods  Huh

I need all the help I can get guys so let me know what set ups your running out there  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2006, 20:24:01 pm »

2110? Good choice Cool

Here is the spec of mine
82mm Berg forgedcrank
90.5mm Mahle barrels & pistons ( total seal rings )
Engle FK8 cam with straight cut timing gears
Eagle race rods
VW type 1 dual relief case
Scat deep sump
040 cast cylinder heads ported & polished by Jeff Denham
valves 44 x 37.5
compresion 9.5 to 1
bosch blue 009 dissy with 8mm Blue Max leads
Weber 48 IDA's with Berg linkage on skat trak maniolds
Pheonix 1 3/4 inch merged header with A1 Turbo muffler
Mocal external oil cooler
Berg oil breather / filler
Berg equaliser pulley
Berg welded fan

Good for 162 bhp and runs 13's in a full street weight bug with a lard arse driving it Grin
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2006, 20:47:58 pm »

Cool cheers dude - but did it have ratio'd rockers  Huh
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 22:56:41 pm »

Hey Guys I need some advice  Smiley I have just done a deal on some engine bits and it looks like I'm going to be building a 82x90.5 2110cc  with a pair of IDA's and some Scat D port heads, My plan is for this to be a full on STREET motor that will be matched to a 5 speed box and will see plenty of miles so whats your advice guys Huh What cam  Huh which make of crank  Huh ratio'd lifters  Huh push rods  Huh Ignition  Huh Rods  Huh

I need all the help I can get guys so let me know what set ups your running out there  Smiley

First is this all new or used? if used allow for a valve job and some springs,best to start of all good Smiley   My choice would be  K8 or fk44 both with 1.4 rockers,chromoly push rods.
Rods,I would go for h beams,you could use i beams but they are heavier,personally i would put 5.5s in it but 5.4s would be ok
Compression 8.7 upwards,what is this going in? full weight car or light buggy Wink
1 5/8 merged header with your choice of muffler[in a bug dual quiet packs]
 I would use a scat crank,just had good luck with them myself & it would be 84mm stroke,but then I would use 94mm piston/cylinders
cheers richie,uk

PS and lose the idas,they are to old and badly designed Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 23:52:28 pm »

Hey Richie - I was hoping you would reply Wink  Grin

The parts I have are a pair of IDA's with match ported manifolds, Scat Pro comp heads 40x37.5 D ports cut for 90.5/92's with 56cc chambers and a 1 5/8 stainless header - They are second hand but have only done approx 1500 miles

I was thinking of a 84x94 motor but this would mean machining out the the heads - would this be ok  Huh

Also the engine will be going in my new Street racer Bug/ 70's Cal Looker  Grin Grin Grin

Why do you say don't use the IDA's Huh and what would you use instead  Huh would it involve lots of tubing and a spinny thing  Wink

So what would be your ultimate spec for a street going 2332  Huh  Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 03:07:43 am »

82 X 90.5 -- yeah now we're talking.  I'm collecting parts for this combo myself.

So far I've collected:

Case--late 70s fuel injection case
Crank--CB forged/nitrided 82mm
Rods--RIMCO Super Rods
P/Cs--Mahle
Heads--VW 043 worked by K-Roc.  40x35.5, 186 CFM @ .600"
CB 1.4 ratio rockers, dual springs
Web 86B cam
Magnum gears
CB 28mm lifters
Dellorto 48 DRLAs

I'm going to try and have the shortblock underway over the winter (altho I am not sure how that will really go).  Once it is done, if it runs solidly down in the 13s on street tires I'll be really happy.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 08:27:33 am »

I Just Built an 84x94 Motor 2332 for my 67 Bug
Scat 84mm Chevy Rod Crank
C.B. 5.7 H Beam Rods
Engle FK47 Cam with 1.4 Pauter Rockers
Magnum Straight Cut Gears Steel on Steel
C.B. Wedgeport Heads 44x37
10 to 1 Compression
Century Long Barrels with Wisco Pistons
12Lb Flywheel with a  Stage 1 Kennedy Press Plate
48 Ida's with 42mm vents and Scat Track Manifolds
1 3/4 A 1 Merged Exhaust with Magnaflow muffler
Joe Hunt Magneto with locked out advance
Motor put out 237 H.P. @ 6500 on the Dyno

Working on Building the Trans Now. Cant Wait to get it in the Car I Wanted to put the Engine in the Car but Dont Want To spit The Stock Trans out in the Street LOL
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 11:43:57 am »

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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 13:46:08 pm »

monkiboy

Don't listen to Richie what does he know  Grin

Sorry Lee,
               as martin says i dont know anything, I will let him advise you as he knows so much,cheers richie,uk
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 14:20:19 pm »

I will run 86 x 94 with AA pistons and Barrels.  10:1cr 44 x 37 heads IDA's (Which i will change to EFI cuz they are shit;)) and using a webcam 86b cam for street use.

Should be good for 200bhp+

Only need a a couple of bits and it can be put together.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2006, 14:31:14 pm »

monkiboy

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monkiboy

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Sorry Lee,
               as martin says i dont know anything, I will let him advise you as he knows so much,cheers richie,uk

Ah come on guys stop putting your selves down  Wink  So what would you suggest Martin  Huh let me guess some more tubing and a spinny thing  Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2006, 16:20:24 pm »

I definitely don't know anything, (I work in an office for a start! Shocked) but you're welcome over anytime. Richie's 84/94 suggestion makes sense to me, a big lazy is good for the street I think.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 16:49:41 pm »

Well I must know nothing then cos I work in a Hotel in London  Shocked  Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks for the offer Mat PM your phone number and address and I'll pop over soon dude - I've been dying to checkout your ride in more detail  Smiley you run a 2332 right Huh

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2006, 18:38:12 pm »

If you dont upgrade to 94's now, you will soon wish you had once the motor is running!
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2006, 19:01:45 pm »

monkiboy

Don't listen to Richie what does he know  Grin

Sorry Lee,
               as martin says i dont know anything, I will let him advise you as he knows so much,cheers richie,uk

Go and buy a mini and put a 1340cc motor in it. Grin
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2006, 20:59:48 pm »

Well I must know nothing then cos I work in a Hotel in London  Shocked  Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks for the offer Mat PM your phone number and address and I'll pop over soon dude - I've been dying to checkout your ride in more detail  Smiley you run a 2332 right Huh



Have sent a PM. A hotel? It's a wonder either of us even know what an engine is!   Cheesy  Shocked
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2006, 11:56:12 am »

Keep your IDAs dude, runs just as smooth as everything else if you just get to know them.. Cool
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