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who makes the best qp?
bugpack...?
i want one that tucks the mufflers back under the wings, with flaired tips....??
and to sound nice and raspy
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 22:40:02 pm » |
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who makes the best qp?
bugpack...?
i want one that tucks the mufflers back under the wings, with flaired tips....??
and to sound nice and raspy
Thunderbird Small Flange makes A Copy of the Old 4 Tuned Fits Great and Looks Good they have Single and dual Systems Also make Old School Merged Single Qp Mufflers http://www.pertronix.com/catalogs/pdf/tbird/tbird_2008.pdf |
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 11:02:45 am » |
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thanks, ssp sell these in the uk  |
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 20:46:56 pm » |
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Judging by how much Power Rick Sadlers car made on the Heads Up Dyno, The Bugpack dual mufflers, must be the way to go! 227hp
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 00:57:57 am » |
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Judging by how much Power Rick Sadlers car made on the Heads Up Dyno, The Bugpack dual mufflers, must be the way to go! 227hp
this car ?  looks great. that is a lot of horsepower for a merged 1 5/8s ! |
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 02:38:24 am » |
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Judging by how much Power Rick Sadlers car made on the Heads Up Dyno, The Bugpack dual mufflers, must be the way to go! 227hp
this car ? looks great. that is a lot of horsepower for a merged 1 5/8s ! Bigger is not always better?  My old 67 ex Scott bakken Car ran 11:70's with a 78x90.5 motor with a 1 5/8 merge and a good set of heads |
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 11:18:44 am » |
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thanks, ssp sell these in the uk We did, till Thunderbird stopped making them  |
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 10:44:22 am » |
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I'm also still looking for a good dual QP, I've tried the bugpack model and lost 20 hp on the dyno.  Normally I run a turbo style muffler. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 17:54:40 pm » |
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who makes the best qp?
bugpack...?
i want one that tucks the mufflers back under the wings, with flaired tips....??
and to sound nice and raspy
Thunderbird Small Flange makes A Copy of the Old 4 Tuned Fits Great and Looks Good they have Single and dual Systems Also make Old School Merged Single Qp Mufflers http://www.pertronix.com/catalogs/pdf/tbird/tbird_2008.pdfShubee maybe you would be so kind as to show me were the DUAL QP systems are on that site you posted the link to? I cant see any and can find no mention to them,as this was the question originally asked and i would also like to try something that fits the mufflers further in cheers richie |
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 00:17:53 am » |
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I'm also still looking for a good dual QP, I've tried the bugpack model and lost 20 hp on the dyno. Normally I run a turbo style muffler. Maybe you had other problems; Rick's lost around 7 to 8hp over a stinger on Heads Ups Dyno. BTW Rick is using a 1 3/4 header with the BUGPACK mufflers. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 01:00:01 am » |
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who makes the best qp?
bugpack...?
i want one that tucks the mufflers back under the wings, with flaired tips....??
and to sound nice and raspy
Thunderbird Small Flange makes A Copy of the Old 4 Tuned Fits Great and Looks Good they have Single and dual Systems Also make Old School Merged Single Qp Mufflers http://www.pertronix.com/catalogs/pdf/tbird/tbird_2008.pdfI have a copy of their print catalog, and I recall seeing the merged duals listed in there. You might want to email Pertronix and see if you can get a copy of their print catalog, or inquire directly about the mufflers. Shubee maybe you would be so kind as to show me were the DUAL QP systems are on that site you posted the link to? I cant see any and can find no mention to them,as this was the question originally asked and i would also like to try something that fits the mufflers further in cheers richie |
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 10:04:02 am » |
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I'm also still looking for a good dual QP, I've tried the bugpack model and lost 20 hp on the dyno. Normally I run a turbo style muffler. Maybe you had other problems; Rick's lost around 7 to 8hp over a stinger on Heads Ups Dyno. BTW Rick is using a 1 3/4 header with the BUGPACK mufflers. there you have it: I used the standard 1 5/8 DQP and that setup sucks. I think if you use a 1 3/4 setup it would work great but I don't think you can buy this setup, If it's possible please let me know where, I will buy them immediately! |
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 11:26:10 am » |
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i think the bugpack mufflers only come in one size and it's just the header that is larger, right?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 11:59:41 am » |
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i think the bugpack mufflers only come in one size and it's just the header that is larger, right?
yep, I only found 1 5/8 mufflers: csp, bugpack, flat 4, ... all of them are 1 5/8. The bigger ones are handmade... correct me if I'm wrong. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2009, 12:19:32 pm » |
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my bugpack came with a 1 1/2" header, but i'm pretty sure it's not smaller than your 1 5/8". just one size IMO.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 13:43:08 pm » |
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my bugpack came with a 1 1/2" header, but i'm pretty sure it's not smaller than your 1 5/8". just one size IMO.
the only difference between a 1 1/2 and a 1 5/8 is the position of the flange I guess... size could be the same. But I need neither of them, I want 1 3/4 DQP's |
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2009, 00:02:21 am » |
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who makes the best qp?
bugpack...?
i want one that tucks the mufflers back under the wings, with flaired tips....??
and to sound nice and raspy
Thunderbird Small Flange makes A Copy of the Old 4 Tuned Fits Great and Looks Good they have Single and dual Systems Also make Old School Merged Single Qp Mufflers http://www.pertronix.com/catalogs/pdf/tbird/tbird_2008.pdfShubee maybe you would be so kind as to show me were the DUAL QP systems are on that site you posted the link to? I cant see any and can find no mention to them,as this was the question originally asked and i would also like to try something that fits the mufflers further in cheers richie Picture not shown in new Catalog heres the Thunderbird Part# H4074 System with Dual Mufflers Small Flange Non Merge |
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2009, 00:45:12 am » |
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where's Tobi and the QP mufflers he was making?
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2009, 00:56:48 am » |
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his QPs rock!! |
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 01:10:20 am » |
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I saw this muffler on the website from kaagkevers. (the muffler below on the photo) Is this a new kind of muffler? |
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 18:00:42 pm » |
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I have the Thunderbird standard exhaust with the dual mufflers (of course) and they do fit very nice. They are on my 67 street car. Thick flanges and do tuck under like the old Four Tuned. They also make 1 5/8 merge with dual mufflers also like the old Four Tuned. Dave Rhoads
Thunderbird part # H3948 Dual muffler
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 18:10:31 pm » |
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do they sound loud?
or pretty quiet?
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2009, 02:00:39 am » |
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do they sound loud?
or pretty quiet?
Loud and i only had a single! |
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 02:59:51 am » |
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I have them on a 2027 with 8.5 compr. and are pretty quiet. I have the Thunderbird dual mufflers. Very smooth and crisp sounding. I have always liked this type of exhaust and sound better. Dave Rhoads
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2009, 10:28:26 am » |
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I used to have the Bugpack merged 1 5/8" header on my Ghia with their dual q/p's and the sound was really nice, not as loud as the "bread-bin" turbo mufflers and nothing can beat the balanced look. Unfortunately, I caught the left hand one on a kerb when I was pulling out of a tight parking spot and bent it.
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 10:55:55 am » |
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is there no way of getting the phoenix DQ's my brother ran them on his 67 and they were cool looking and sounding  |
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 13:54:02 pm » |
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i'll be going back to my bugpacks  |
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2009, 14:36:37 pm » |
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I have the Thunderbird standard exhaust with the dual mufflers (of course) and they do fit very nice. They are on my 67 street car. Thick flanges and do tuck under like the old Four Tuned. They also make 1 5/8 merge with dual mufflers also like the old Four Tuned. Dave Rhoads
Thunderbird part # H3948 Dual muffler
Thunderbird part # H4111 15/8 Merge header
checking the thunderbird (pertronix) website,they still make the merged header,but don't list the muffler. i found a 2006 PDF and they show the dual muffler for merged. so i guess Benssp is right in that they no longer make them ? they just list the single quiet for merged... Dave Rhoads what size are the scat/al's headers from the other thread 1 5/8s ? thanks |
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2009, 16:51:52 pm » |
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very true jimi!
my brother has the single quiet from Flat4 and it looks amazing!
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