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hey. just finish building my 2779 oxy boxer for my 62 type 1. the build up has been on the way for 2 years where we were trying to get the right parts for it. my freind rolf has been a big help with all the work and support. it startet with a stock wbx case who we machined for oxy. put in udo becker alu busing for lifters. after that we did some changes on the oil system so it looks like a full flow on a type 1. when the engine was finish last year just 2 days before scc i did a test run. it pulled strong and when i changed to 2. gear the flywheel came off and that was my seson. had to change the crank and flywheel and a welded dpr crank with wedge made flywheel in not a stock part. so i took the engine apart and decided to do some upgrade on the engine. now it is redy to fire up agin. the engine is build up with. 86mm dpr crank with wedge made flywheel jpm ms230 heads in 4" 12,6:1 fk89 cam 2"header full msd pauter rods 5,7" wanolia 101,6 piston with aa cylinder manton push rods 51,3 mm jay cee ida.. will change to berg 58 next week  |
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 21:31:28 pm » |
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Now that's a beautiful engine.Is it built for street and strip,or...............? Any idea about the power output? And please,post some pics from the car.  |
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 21:37:44 pm » |
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it is mostly made for the strip but got mot and numbers on the car so i can test it on the street..
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 22:05:59 pm » |
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Whaw,that looks very nice. Thank's for posting the pics. |
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 22:09:31 pm » |
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 16:11:12 pm » |
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Very, very cool ! More engine pics please.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 18:54:25 pm » |
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Nice work . Hope you fixed the crank and flywheel right now !? Do you think these welded cranks are strong enough ?
I have done some oxyboxer engines for circuit racing . 82x96 . These cases are the very best and strongest cases you can get . They work with a lot of power over many many years ...
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 19:45:32 pm » |
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hey udo. there is a big differens between my old demello and my new dpr. dpr has got a better finish and it just feels better.. my new crank has got 5 bas bolts 5 pins and it is wedge made with the flywheel so think it will be allright. my old crank is going into a 2387 oxy for my 65 splitbus.. så it is going to be a torq monster.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 12:35:51 pm » |
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Very nice indeed! What header did you use with this long stroke, long rod combo?
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 12:41:31 pm » |
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quality job. i sold my wbx case last month. dunno why i bought it, there so much machining to do, but the results are astonishing.
this is a bit off topic, but why did you paint the cylinders black? does that help the heat dissipation?
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 13:18:28 pm » |
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i dont know whát brand the header is, but think all the margde can be adjustet for long stroker.. the aa cylinder cams paintet black.
yes there is alot to do when you want to build big and even more when you want to build oxy.. but it is wery strong stuff.. will post more pictures later..
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2009, 07:46:01 am » |
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just put my 2660 oxyboxer in  82x101.6 fk 45 cam limbach 44x38 heads 1 3/4" header full MSD jaycee 52 IDA this thing is as wide as a 30hp engine  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2009, 12:48:41 pm » |
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@ Bang:how many engines do you have? |
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2009, 16:08:35 pm » |
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i have my 2779 for my drag car and a 2387 on the way for my 65 splitwindow bus.. karl h.. nice engine. where do you get the limbach heads? and are they with wbx bolt holes?.. where do you live |
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2009, 16:19:33 pm » |
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bought the heads from peter gierlich in germany, extensively modified, welded, 44x38. they made 202hp on his 2.4
limbach heads come with wbx stud pattern, they are basically an 040 head with the bigger pattern
i´m in austria
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2009, 21:29:35 pm » |
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Gerd Weiser sells the Sauer heads with extra finnage and also made originally for wbx pattern.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 11:40:35 am » |
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got my 58 berg today.. so next week i will make the manifolds and fit them, then its start up time.. |
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 12:04:18 pm » |
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Now that are big carbs ,looks good man. Have fun with the further built-up and keep posting the pic's. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 13:50:44 pm » |
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thanks. yes they are big and after calculation they can give 46% more air than an 48 ida..  |
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 14:27:39 pm » |
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Looks like a pain to change those spark plugs.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2009, 16:15:10 pm » |
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not so bad. 4 bolts and i can remove the end of the cooling tin. dont need to take the fanhous of to remove the head aswell.. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2009, 17:03:36 pm » |
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bought the heads from peter gierlich in germany, extensively modified, welded, 44x38. they made 202hp on his 2.4
limbach heads come with wbx stud pattern, they are basically an 040 head with the bigger pattern
i´m in austria
I have done some work on those heads , they are good for street use because of the very good cooling , i have one engine on the circuit track with the heads , 96x82 with 225 hp. But if you want big ports you better go with the CB CE heads . You can get them without holes bored for the cylinderbolts . Udo |
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2009, 22:05:30 pm » |
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I really dig your throttle-cable set-up Cool engine project...all of you big-CC WBX guys make me wish I went with 4" bore on my WBX  Next time around the block... |
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2009, 22:29:29 pm » |
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the cable throttle pull is just working perfect.. the best you can buy for money i can only say.. go 4" |
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2009, 07:45:01 am » |
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bought the heads from peter gierlich in germany, extensively modified, welded, 44x38. they made 202hp on his 2.4
limbach heads come with wbx stud pattern, they are basically an 040 head with the bigger pattern
i´m in austria
I have done some work on those heads , they are good for street use because of the very good cooling , i have one engine on the circuit track with the heads , 96x82 with 225 hp. But if you want big ports you better go with the CB CE heads . You can get them without holes bored for the cylinderbolts . Udo i got a set of these , 51x40, moved exhaust guides, K800s they are for my 90x103 pentroof bases engine |
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2009, 22:42:56 pm » |
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thanks for all the reply. have done some work today. got my manifolds back from the welder and did some portwork on them.. had to change them from 51,5mm to 58mm. got the berg 58 . need to modify me cabel pull for the cabs. |
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2009, 23:10:57 pm » |
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All you scandinavian guys are just plain crazy! |
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2009, 06:43:37 am » |
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2009, 07:04:26 am » |
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good to see some 4IN piston engines going together. if you ever get it on the chassie dyno take a vidio of it and share it with us. good job keep up the good work . UD.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2009, 01:05:42 am » |
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awesome, that engine is HUGE!
p.s. what do you use the loctite 542 for?
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