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« on: February 22, 2009, 15:40:30 pm »

You can say to me if my back height seems to be correct , according to certain images of original vw Shocked  , the height seems correct, what do you think of it Huh
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 15:50:53 pm »

Looks fine to me. Have you driven it around the block so it will settle yet?

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 15:55:27 pm »

no  , just outside the garage  ,because no brake for the moment , i wll purge the system after put back the front new drums
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 16:50:34 pm »

Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want Wink
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 16:59:57 pm »

Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want Wink
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 17:02:53 pm »

Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want Wink
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive

I would drive it a bit and see if it settles a little. If not, then I would drop it another inch, or put some tires with a proper sidewall on there.  Wink

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 17:14:23 pm »

Can't say anything as long as it's not settled yet. But the end result should be a bit lower IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 17:16:51 pm »

Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want Wink
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive

I would drive it a bit and see if it settles a little. If not, then I would drop it another inch, or put some tires with a proper sidewall on there.  Wink

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yes  but i'm not sure that the rear will drop a little, here's a picture with the empi 5 and the brigdestone 215/65 and he look like the same with my new cinturato 185/75
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 17:21:28 pm »

I covet your decklid every time i see that shot. I think you have more gap now than in that pic. But I will be honest, I like my gap to be the same, front and back.

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 17:30:45 pm »

thx louis i will see in the future if the car will drop , but i'm not optimistic
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 17:37:55 pm »

Hi Fabs I think it needs to be at least 1 inch lower front and back  this Ragtop and oval sit perfect in the rear it has a little space but it has 165's I like the cars Lowered even with the top of the tire no space in between
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 19:20:20 pm »

climb on the back seat and bounce a bit.  See if this helps.  I have 185's on mine and there isn't that much gap.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 19:42:22 pm »

climb on the back seat and bounce a bit.  See if this helps.  I have 185's on mine and there isn't that much gap.
mike you can go with me into my car in the rear  at ebi 3 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes......................... Grin Grin Grin (joking buddy)

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 19:44:34 pm »

gary there's also a space  betwenn tyres and fenders of john L's car



but remember there's no weight into the car all seat are in fiberglass
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2009, 21:31:59 pm »

I think you need to drive it before you finally decide dude BUT here's a little tip that I did on the manx as that has NO weight either  Wink

You see if you leave a manx at stock height it tends to have ALOT of positive camber, So to get rid of this and still keep nice and high what I did was first LOWER each side by 2 OUTER splines then RAISE them again by 2 INNER splines, Now this may sound alittle strange BUT it gives you an almost stock height WITHOUT the positive camber Smiley

I have heard of people doing this on Bugs too BUT they tend to go for 4 inner/outer splines.
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2009, 21:40:44 pm »

thx lee  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 21:41:32 pm »

Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 21:51:46 pm »

Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.

Great minds think alike dude  Grin

P.s stiffer rear shocks might be in order dude  Wink Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 21:57:09 pm »

Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.
jon  if i put my tyres on your car , he will lokk the same Huh i've 185/75 side and before a 215/65
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 21:57:42 pm »

Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.

Great minds think alike dude  Grin

P.s stiffer rear shocks might be in order dude  Wink Smiley

or stiffer torsion bars Wink
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 22:40:09 pm »

Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.
jon  if i put my tyres on your car , he will lokk the same Huh i've 185/75 side and before a 215/65


Fabian, 215/70 is a 1" taller tire than a 185/5. (215/70 = 27"). Wich means the space between fender and tire would be 1/2" less if you put 215/70 on your car.
215/65 is as tall as 185/75(26"). I notice a BIG difference when I put on my 26" slicks.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 22:42:58 pm »

ok  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2009, 22:44:52 pm »

gary there's also a space  betwenn tyres and fenders of john L's car



but remember there's no weight into the car all seat are in fiberglass
all the more reason to lower it Grin Grin it sits to high even when the Empi 5 spokes were on it It is to High LOL get rid of the space above the tire Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2009, 22:47:10 pm »

26x6" Firestones stock height.
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2009, 22:59:34 pm »

I would see having to run drive some time with
i will decide  after if i drop the car 2 inner & outer splines
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2009, 08:17:03 am »

it needs to drop a bit more. but look at it when you have driven the car. it may settle one inch lower after that. that would be perfect. i see you showed pics off deano's car and as beautifull as it is, it had an ugly gap at the back IMHO. way too much space even if it was stock hight.

i think you have 185/70 tires and that is about the same as what i have and 165/80, but don't count on it to be exacltly the same as it can differ quite a lot from brand to brand. uniroyal 165's are a lot lower then firestone 165's.

thanks for putting up the picture off the sepia brown one with the brown BRM's, but i think it is on jackstands or so... very beautifull car though.

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2009, 14:47:21 pm »

Fabs,like the most have said,drive it for a while and see  how the height is then.You can correct afterwards.   Wink
@ Shubee,like Nicolas said,that sephia brown is a beauty.Can you give some more info please.(engine,year,.........)
(the rearlights seem later ones??,)

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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2009, 14:55:04 pm »

it's mike hunsaker 66 sepia brown he was in drf
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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2009, 15:48:02 pm »

Looks cool Fabs, don't worry take a little drive and your rear end will sit correctly.
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2009, 15:53:35 pm »

or i've another idea  i will eat more burger and other fast food to be more fat  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes......................... Grin Grin  my car will look more a restocal after  Grin Grin Grin
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