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The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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Lee.C
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The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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March 13, 2009, 17:58:15 pm »
I thought I would start a seperate thread just for my little SPG crank - Gary has done some very very nice work
You can see the 6 sections that make up the crank its self and where Gary had to drill out the Old index pins, These pin's where NOT fitted from new but alot of people "pinned" them
back in the day
to prevent twisting but they would often still twist
Gary has done ALOT of R&D on these cranks and now uses a new style pin, the crank will also be welded to fully eliminate twisting, He has also come up with new roller bearings for the rods and he has a few more tricks to prevent the rods breaking
It is being balanced and wedgemated today and I should have some more pic's in a few days.
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Lee.C
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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Lee.C
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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March 13, 2009, 18:08:37 pm »
My crank had thrown a flywheel at some point in its life and the end section was basiclly scrap
But not to worry Gary has new sections "in-stock"
Here's my new end section ready to be wedgemated
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You gotta love an SPG crank!
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Lee.C
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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March 16, 2009, 22:37:35 pm »
Quote from: All Torque on March 16, 2009, 22:16:00 pm
You gotta love an SPG crank!
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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March 16, 2009, 23:28:20 pm »
How does the roller crank get balanced? with rods and everything?
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March 17, 2009, 01:31:50 am »
Hey Lee,
I am using an 82mm SPG in my GTV motor.
It was welded and pinned before it left Empi years ago.
The Empi SPG actually had different connecting rods than the other SPG's.
They were narrower to fit in the 88mm Empi "Slipper Skirt" pistons.
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Lee.C
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March 17, 2009, 20:10:52 pm »
Quote from: eugene on March 16, 2009, 23:28:20 pm
How does the roller crank get balanced? with rods and everything?
It gets pressed together WITHOUT the rods - Balanced - Pressed apart AGAIN then it has the BALANCED rods/bearing fitted, Time consuming but well worth it
Quote from: Richard Roth on March 17, 2009, 01:31:50 am
Hey Lee,
I am using an 82mm SPG in my GTV motor.
It was welded and pinned before it left Empi years ago.
The Empi SPG actually had different connecting rods than the other SPG's.
They were narrower to fit in the 88mm Empi "Slipper Skirt" pistons.
Thanks for the info dude
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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March 17, 2009, 20:41:10 pm »
How does it get pressed together, balanced, pressed apart, reassembled then pinned and welded and still maintain the balance?
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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Quote from: stealth67vw on March 17, 2009, 20:41:10 pm
How does it get pressed together, balanced, pressed apart, reassembled then pinned and welded and still maintain the balance?
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March 17, 2009, 21:53:15 pm »
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm asking a serious question.
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Lee.C
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Quote from: stealth67vw on March 17, 2009, 20:41:10 pm
How does it get pressed together, balanced, pressed apart, reassembled then pinned and welded and still maintain the balance?
I don't know dude I leave that kinda thing to the experts - as I said gary has ALOT of experience rebuilding these cranks and I trust his judgement
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March 18, 2009, 01:12:41 am »
FYI, the pins used to "pin" the SPG's were actually flywheel location pins !
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July 27, 2009, 08:00:39 am »
time to sell a kidney
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Bug-Ghia-NOS-Crown-EMPI-Aluminum-Flywheel-SPG-Roller_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem20acab68e4QQitemZ140335868132QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
go on you know you want to, VW action or a flywheel, you choose!!!
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July 27, 2009, 08:39:34 am »
Cheap! Buy it Lee!!!!
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Re: The SPG Rebuild - it can be done :)
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July 27, 2009, 12:05:18 pm »
them old things, ive got one on the shelf, I dont like the Idea of them, much prefer and little weight on the flywheel as to help save the SPG's..
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Lee.C
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Quote from: Martin on July 27, 2009, 12:05:18 pm
them old things, ive got one on the shelf, I dont like the Idea of them, much prefer and little weight on the flywheel as to help save the SPG's..
Thats exactly what Gary told me
That flywheel has been for sale about 6 times now I keep "watching" it
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