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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2007, 10:13:48 am » |
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I have been using a copper Hurst for years, but I’m not that impressed. The construction is to flimsy for hard and fast shifting. That’s why I now use a Berg shifter, its not a world apart, but its more solid and takes the beating easy.
I have never split my Berg to see the magic, but from the Berg catalogue I see its just a steel ball jammed between two plastic plates/rings, much like the Hurst/Empi. It's not rocket science, so I guess there must be a "copy" out there that is just as sturdy... for those on a budget. Some of the cheep shifters I have seen appears to even have the same base as the Berg?
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2007, 15:33:46 pm » |
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I have used an EZR for 10 years now, no problems until I came to fit my new gearbox and had lots of difficulties finding gears. Have put the stock shifter in for now and will run it like this for 12 months or so and then possible either go back to the EMPI or maybe stick a Berg in.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2007, 16:25:17 pm » |
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I had a vintage 9 1/2" Berg in my '65 Ghia and I loved it! It never even needed any adjustment, just bolt it on and run it. My '59 bug will get another vintage Berg, this time a Ilocker. After running a Berg I'm not going to change to another brand, ever. Form, function, style, quality and reputation in a combination you juts cannot beat. But let me tell you that locker is a bitch to adjust  I never got it to shift right in my Notch. So Berg all the way and they are one item which does not depreciate with age! |
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Mito
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2007, 16:39:23 pm » |
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60% Berg in my '66 bug, i like this shifter very much. I will buy 60% Berg to my '54 bug when it rolls someday  |
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2007, 23:49:25 pm » |
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I use a Berg 60% and use is in my streetcar.   And what do you think about this one Jordy?? |
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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2007, 00:31:00 am » |
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And what do you think about this one Jordy?? Haha, amazing!!  Glad to see it's at least nice and clean  |
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2007, 12:49:55 pm » |
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I use a stocker with a quickshift did I mention I am cheap?  |
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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2007, 13:20:41 pm » |
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I use Berg 40% in my daily. And a Flat4 Eliminator repro with Hurst top ... I will dance nude for a complet Hurst or a DDS shifters !!!  |
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2007, 15:23:37 pm » |
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and wich is 'best'?
bend, 12" 14" straight?
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2007, 15:45:36 pm » |
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Depends on your car. Early cars (i believe) ->55 and 68-> bugs had the shifter location somewhat closer to the driver.
For those cars you'll need a straight shifter to keep the handle in its original position, for cars with a bend in the shifter you need the one with the bend.
If you have a car from 55 thru 67 you could take a straight shifter to move the handle forward (if you have long arms) or the one with the extra bend if you want it closer to you.
For early and 68-> bugs you can take the one with the bend to move it closer and the one with the extra bend to move it extra close...
The length of the handle, and % of reduction also depends on what you prefer..
I believe 12" is the right length to keep it original. (don't know for sure)
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Ulcera
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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2007, 22:03:10 pm » |
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 ....for me that I'm not so tall the 12" Berg in my '56 is the Top! |
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2007, 02:35:58 am » |
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and it looks the shizzle my nizzle!! i love your tachometer, cazzutissimo! how period correct!! ben fatto, continua così!!!! |
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2007, 19:49:38 pm » |
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ive used berg shifters for 25 years and there a darn good shifter. but i wanted somthing different theys days so i went to the old style hurst its the right hight and it works flawless with very easy ajustment and it just has that vintage race look to it. SS. |
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2007, 02:36:14 am » |
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I bought a old gear shifter from ebay it was made by Hurst and was called an Indy shifter. I put in in my '72 and it was terrible the gears used the make a crunching nosie. So I sold it on ebay and bought a berg locking shifter which was very expensive but really really good. I am using it in my 1972 beetle but when I sell it Iwill keep the gene berg gear stick and put it in my 1967 I am getting
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2007, 02:53:33 am » |
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I bought a old gear shifter from ebay it was made by Hurst and was called an Indy shifter. I put in in my '72 and it was terrible the gears used the make a crunching nosie. So I sold it on ebay and bought a berg locking shifter which was very expensive but really really good. I am using it in my 1972 beetle but when I sell it Iwill keep the gene berg gear stick and put it in my 1967 I am getting
The Indy Shifter is not the Hurst shifter to use. You need the one with the round ball and the loop to pull up on the engage reverse. Don't know that they ever had a model name |
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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2007, 06:39:18 am » |
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i was first using the empi trigger shifter and was not happy with it, didn't shift well, now i have berg shifters for both of my cars and this is working fine, on the other hand the CSP shifters looking great also and as far as i heard also work great...
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2007, 13:31:40 pm » |
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Hi. I have used a Berg Shifter for some years. I have to say I switched to a CSP 60% shifter, it works a dream. Would never buy anything else. Stephan  |
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2007, 13:52:53 pm » |
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recently bought a GB6710  The CSP shifter looks to 'modern-clean' imho..  |
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2007, 23:49:24 pm » |
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Berg, nothing else for me.
Had a locker for 20 yrs and still like new!!
Built with quality and built to last.
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2007, 10:09:00 am » |
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Stephan 32 : which one do you have ? straight, angled or short angled ?
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« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2007, 18:34:15 pm » |
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I have a Flat4 Eliminator repro with black ball as a handle....it took me a while to adjust it and I am still not completly happy....
It s not that smooth as I want it to be.....
Kind regards edgar
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« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2007, 18:51:42 pm » |
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I have a Scat Drag-Fast shifter which is an excellent shifter technically, but i don´t really like the look of it so i´m changing it for a older Berg.
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« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2007, 09:46:30 am » |
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I have used Bergs on my bug and ghia and love them, I am about to do another and picked up an original Hurst, so will see how it compares (I must admit I do like the look of the Hurst). Whilst we are on the subject of Shifters, is $500 bucks a good deal on a DDS shifter ? Looks good apart from a small piece of the handle is chipped (where it fits the shaft)! Al |
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2007, 03:01:09 am » |
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i´m using an Berg 40% "fingergrip" model.. Can anybody tell me when they stopped making those? I wonder how old mine is. Still works perfectly..
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2007, 23:49:00 pm » |
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I have used Bergs on my bug and ghia and love them, I am about to do another and picked up an original Hurst, so will see how it compares (I must admit I do like the look of the Hurst). Whilst we are on the subject of Shifters, is $500 bucks a good deal on a DDS shifter ? Looks good apart from a small piece of the handle is chipped (where it fits the shaft)! Al Your watching that one on ebay to then it is very very hard to find one that has a perfect handle, I love the look of the DDS shifter |
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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2007, 00:03:13 am » |
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i´m using an Berg 40% "fingergrip" model.. Can anybody tell me when they stopped making those? I wonder how old mine is. Still works perfectly..
The Finger Grip Handle is Available again for a couple of Years now... If you have an Original one the fixing screws of the handle should be at 4o' clock position... Frank |
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« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2007, 00:09:19 am » |
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I have used Bergs on my bug and ghia and love them, I am about to do another and picked up an original Hurst, so will see how it compares (I must admit I do like the look of the Hurst). Whilst we are on the subject of Shifters, is $500 bucks a good deal on a DDS shifter ? Looks good apart from a small piece of the handle is chipped (where it fits the shaft)! Al Your watching that one on ebay to then it is very very hard to find one that has a perfect handle, I love the look of the DDS shifter Yeh, but no good for a 5, unnecessary luxury |
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kkwa
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« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2007, 00:39:08 am » |
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i´m using an Berg 40% "fingergrip" model.. Can anybody tell me when they stopped making those? I wonder how old mine is. Still works perfectly..
The Finger Grip Handle is Available again for a couple of Years now... If you have an Original one the fixing screws of the handle should be at 4o' clock position... Frank Mine is not a "repoop" shifter.. Ive had it for 10years allready.. It came from a buggy build in the early 80`s.. Heres a picture.. And i need no comments on the shitty black el cheapo floormats..  |
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« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2007, 01:01:40 am » |
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nice floormats |
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« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2007, 01:22:57 am » |
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nice floormats They are yours.. When are you gonna pick em up? :p |
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