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jimi323
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« on: May 20, 2009, 13:41:06 pm »
could it works good? Huh
i've installed 1,25 rockers since a month...but reading other post...i'm afraid... Grin
i'm not sure it could be a good combination... Huh
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2009, 14:02:14 pm »
i found this:

Cams for use with 1.1:1 or 1.25:1 rocker arms
W-110   284º   247º   0.392"    9.96   108º   Hot street and off-road; good low and mid-range

http://www.actionimport.com/Tech_Files/cam_information.htm

i become afraid when read someone wrote:
W engle cams are made only for 1:1 rockers... Roll Eyes
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nicolas
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 15:43:40 pm »
it works. had it on my 1641 and worked great in my opinion.
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Zach Gomulka
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 17:51:40 pm »
Had that combo on my 1600, ran 14.87 @ 88, worked for me Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 19:57:01 pm »
Quote from: nicolas on May 20, 2009, 15:43:40 pm
it works. had it on my 1641 and worked great in my opinion.
thank u nicolas!
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jimi323
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009, 20:00:14 pm »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on May 20, 2009, 17:51:40 pm
Had that combo on my 1600, ran 14.87 @ 88, worked for me Wink
great...with which carburator?
stock gearbox?
and heads?

i want to know how can be fun my car... maybe saturday i'll take the car from carburetorsMan!
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 11:17:10 am »
if i may, zach? Wink

here's a copy and paste from an older topic Little Engines That Could!

1600cc, 110x1.25, 8.5:1, AJ Sims 044 40x35.5, 44idfs, 1 1/2" merge. In my light daily driver '67 bug went 14.8 @ 88mph. It is still running in my friends stock weight '67, we drove it to Drag Day (about 900 miles round trip) and averaged about 30mpg.

I used a 4.12 r=p, 3.80, 2.06, 1.48, 1.04.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 11:34:08 am »
you just have to make sure your 1.25s are really 1.25 and not more  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 11:40:28 am »
Quote from: alex d on May 21, 2009, 11:34:08 am
you just have to make sure your 1.25s are really 1.25 and not more  Wink
oh damn....
how can i control this? Huh
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 11:46:07 am »
Quote from: 67-indeed/DVK on May 21, 2009, 11:17:10 am
if i may, zach? Wink

here's a copy and paste from an older topic Little Engines That Could!

1600cc, 110x1.25, 8.5:1, AJ Sims 044 40x35.5, 44idfs, 1 1/2" merge. In my light daily driver '67 bug went 14.8 @ 88mph. It is still running in my friends stock weight '67, we drove it to Drag Day (about 900 miles round trip) and averaged about 30mpg.

I used a 4.12 r=p, 3.80, 2.06, 1.48, 1.04.


ok will be impossible for me 14.8 Grin
i got two 36 idf
original heads
and stock gearbox....
i hope 16 or low 17... Angry
with a real bad carburetors set up i  went last year at 17,8...(without 1,25 rockers)
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 17:28:16 pm »
It really was a great little motor. Someday I'll build a "clone".

With Kadrons, stock heads, 1.1:1 rockers, 1 3/8" header, and a stock ratio gearbox that little engine still did a 16.94 @ 75. If set up properly, and with a driver that has some good seat time, I don't see why you couldn't run a low 16 with 36idf's, good ported stock valve heads, and a stock ratio gearbox.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 07:05:34 am »
Quote from: jimi323 on May 21, 2009, 11:40:28 am
Quote from: alex d on May 21, 2009, 11:34:08 am
you just have to make sure your 1.25s are really 1.25 and not more  Wink
oh damn....
how can i control this? Huh

get the vw ones (with vw and audi logo) and you'll be fine. they are correct.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 10:41:08 am »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on May 21, 2009, 17:28:16 pm
It really was a great little motor. Someday I'll build a "clone".

With Kadrons, stock heads, 1.1:1 rockers, 1 3/8" header, and a stock ratio gearbox that little engine still did a 16.94 @ 75. If set up properly, and with a driver that has some good seat time, I don't see why you couldn't run a low 16 with 36idf's, good ported stock valve heads, and a stock ratio gearbox.
in september will be a little drag strip contest here near Milan, VW vs american cars.... i hope to kick some ass... Grin
i'll let you know Zach....and i hope for the driver...that he will have a good seat time! Grin
Quote from: nicolas on May 22, 2009, 07:05:34 am
Quote from: jimi323 on May 21, 2009, 11:40:28 am
Quote from: alex d on May 21, 2009, 11:34:08 am
you just have to make sure your 1.25s are really 1.25 and not more  Wink

get the vw ones (with vw and audi logo) and you'll be fine. they are correct.

i already have scat ratio rockers... Roll Eyes
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jimi323
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 11:06:41 am »
Zach you know how much hp it has that motor?
I would be curious to know how much it has mine of it 1600...(is my first non-stock motor)
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 18:36:55 pm »
When I sold that motor the 44's were swapped out for 40's with CB update kits and tall big beef manifolds in effort to improve low end torque. It then made 93hp with the belt on.
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 19:38:26 pm »
the scat ones will work as well. i just had the vw ones.

93hp for a streetdriven 1600 is real good btw.


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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2009, 20:55:10 pm »
Quote from: jimi323 on May 20, 2009, 14:02:14 pm
i found this:

Cams for use with 1.1:1 or 1.25:1 rocker arms
W-110   284º   247º   0.392"    9.96   108º   Hot street and off-road; good low and mid-range

http://www.actionimport.com/Tech_Files/cam_information.htm

i become afraid when read someone wrote:
W engle cams are made only for 1:1 rockers... Roll Eyes
                                                             Years ago, I ran my 130 w 125's as a daily driver. I asked Jack at Engle about the 125's ,because of all the comments in a certain catalogue, and he said you can run 125's safely on any W grind cam as long as your springs are set up correctly and your geometry is correct. I ran the Autocrafts, which lift a little less. I ran that combo for years and years with no trouble.
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JamieL
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 14:11:01 pm »
I ran a W110 with 1.25s on a 1914cc turbo motor - ran great Cheesy
207 rwhp on pump gas in street trim Wink
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