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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2010, 16:50:36 pm »

It's a 126p, currently in progress, I'm finishing some minor bodywork stuff, engine mounts etc are already made. Hopefully I'll finish it this spring. It will be street legal.



I'm planing to make it look something like my previous 126p, but with different stance etc

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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2010, 16:58:40 pm »

IMHO I think FIATS were used in the VW scene was because of their wonderful aerodynamics  at that time. They seemed to be much more aerodynamic and lighter than any VW body. The origins probably started with EMPI. It might of been that the manufacture of origin of these cars matched the founder's own heritige. (Itaian) Cannot think of any other VW powered FIATS prior to Joe Vittone's Race Shop FIAT. Correct me if I'm wrong.
http://www2.cal-look.com/nostalgia/fiatgasser.html      Wink

Does a 912 motor count? 

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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2010, 18:55:00 pm »

That one is mine, planing to take it to EBI.



Cool project !
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2010, 19:12:48 pm »

<600kg with rollcage, 2332, IDA's, should be fun
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2011, 10:22:43 am »

IMHO I think FIATS were used in the VW scene was because of their wonderful aerodynamics  at that time. They seemed to be much more aerodynamic and lighter than any VW body. (...)

From my point of view, you can get a decent Fiat 126 here for around 1-3 hundred $. You have to count 10-20 times us much for a Beetle and still it will probably by rusted through and already restored (most often badly) few times in it's life.
Stock Fiat weights less than a lightened Beetle (not only because of the size, you have to look how Fiat's are made comparing to VW's. Cheaply)
Engine and gearbox fit's quite easily.
Fiat's are fun.

So if you have a Beetle engine and you wan to win races.... what would you choose? I don't expect the answer. My point is that people in sunny California in the 60ties or 70ties probably faced similar question. And this may have been a reason why you could find Fiat's racing there and then. I don't see why it should be different now.

This being said, I will rather stick to Beetles. But this will most probably mean losing.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2011, 12:41:21 pm »

Old Fiats were simply (often cheaply) designed, that means they were affordable, light, easy to modify. And they were designed like the VWs : rear-engined etc... Maybe another reason there were so much on the drag strips is because they were more imported to the US than other little european cars (except VWs)  Huh
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2011, 01:14:51 am »

Do I get to express my unbiased opinion?Huh

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2011, 11:28:31 am »

I remember there being a cool looking street driven fiat spyder featured in hot VW's back in the 90's that was a burgandy colour and had a Jack Sacchette motor fitted 
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2011, 12:51:05 pm »

I remember there being a cool looking street driven fiat spyder featured in hot VW's back in the 90's that was a burgandy colour and had a Jack Sacchette motor fitted 
Gino Garcia's. Went to Japan. Ask Deano about his wild ride in it… Cool
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2011, 15:45:22 pm »

ok let's see the report  Wink
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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2011, 15:47:05 pm »

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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2011, 16:02:25 pm »

nice one speedwell you come up trumps again Cool

hey Deano what about this ride?  Huh   Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 05:08:47 am »

I really hate being left out, so heres another.
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 07:34:58 am »

Oooh, real nice car. And a real sunroof 600 at that. Any pictures of the inside of the roof for me? I'm in doubt whether to install one or not and would like to see how hard it would be.

By the way, great thread, keep them coming.
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2011, 07:35:48 am »

I like all of them. I actually wanted to build one of the 850's for a long time but could never find one straight enough to start with.  From the first time I saw the Inch Pincher Fiat and Rich Bays first FIAT (prior to the "Little Giant Killer" days of Lloyd Mosher) I have liked all of them. I can't wait to see Frenchy's NSU either. Ingenuity is always the mother of invention.  All the cars posted here are cool in their own way.

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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2011, 12:56:31 pm »

I really hate being left out, so heres another.

Thats the bollox..

Man I should have never sold my 600..Biggest regret of my car ownership Sad

Somebody find one for sale !!
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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2011, 13:34:37 pm »

Happy Days.


Must get the little fella out for another blast....

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« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2011, 15:15:14 pm »

Happy Days.


Must get the little fella out for another blast....


take this one to ebi 4, she miss me i like it ,last time i saw her it was at ebi 1,some pure hell wheeling
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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2011, 15:53:44 pm »

Looks like the exhaust also doubles as a wheelie bar !
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2011, 16:32:04 pm »

I know of several for sale out here in Calif
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« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2011, 17:49:45 pm »

Mine may be for sale as well, unless our local track here decides that I can race. Thanks for the compliments and I will try to get some sunroof pics up.
Brian.
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« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2011, 05:21:38 am »

I remember the Cicerone car in the early days in So Cal. Where is it now?

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« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2011, 05:59:02 am »

ITS OVER WERE MOSS GROWS ON TOP OF EVERBODYS ROOF. except on FAST FIATS.  . UD. BTW  i miss that little fellar. martin.
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« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2011, 21:09:52 pm »



and a very happy Ian Smiley





I love fiats,

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« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2011, 21:38:43 pm »

here're some of lil wop per (cicerone) , may be those came from UD correct me if i 'm wrong


those were may be at the beginning of the race life of the ca ,r note the scheme paint is different
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« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2011, 21:42:19 pm »

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« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2011, 21:47:16 pm »

another cool 600 the jumbo shrimp check the tread with this car here
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« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2011, 21:52:23 pm »



and a very happy Ian Smiley





I love fiats,


Is that the little giant killer? If so, would love to see more of that.


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« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2011, 21:53:23 pm »

the famous little giant killer when rich bay owned the car

1790cc 912 engine
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« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2011, 21:56:25 pm »

and LGK when lloyd mosher owned , now the car reside in belgium
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