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« on: July 02, 2009, 21:06:36 pm » |
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Sorry for the previous blunder (post) Happy fingers!!
I would like input, good or bad regarding; http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1140
My goal is to keep the track in the original position.
What about replacement rotors and pads when the time comes?
Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 04:41:19 am » |
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I have the ball joint setup on my 66. It definately widens the track on the ball joint setup so I would say a 2" narrowed beam might be in order. I was told the rotors were standard 944 Porsche so that should`nt be problem. The calipers are Fiat so replacements and pads would most likely have to come from CB but thats no problem. I mean really. You may not ever have to replace either for a looooong time. Bleeding these calipers is kinda tough but not impossible and with a 67 master cylinder the pedal is a bit low and soft but that seems to be the norm for a disc brake conversion.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 05:23:46 am » |
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I had them on my 65 and liked them, they add track width like Bryan said and are pretty heavy.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 05:31:16 am » |
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Hi John the Bad Part about that kit is the Calipers mount in front of the Spindle and the Brake hose Set Up is kind of Crappy Plus it kicks the wheel out about 3/4 to 1 inch per side you wood need a 2 in narrowed beam to make the wheel sit right but also depends on the wheel used if it is Torkers then you have a clearence problem with the calipers Talk to John Rayburn He just did a Disc Brake kit on his Car and is running Torkers |
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 14:24:41 pm » |
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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that Rayburn didn't use drop spindles. Doesn't he have the stock ones? If so, less track width issues. Too bad someone doesn't forge a spindle that allows front discs while retaining the stock track width.
John, I'm assuming that you're going to be utilizing a non-ball joint front end for this, yes? Otherwise, I'd suggest using the '67 and later European disc brake spindles like people did 30 years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 15:10:58 pm » |
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The offset is more in the brakes themself rather than the spindles.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 15:45:16 pm » |
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I can't say anything about the 5 bolt set up, but I'm very happy with my 4 bolt, 4 wheel discs from CB. Stops on a dime and leaves a nickels change  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 15:55:17 pm » |
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The offset is more in the brakes themself rather than the spindles. True. But is this to say that the factory (Europe) front Type 1 disc brake front ends had the same track width as their drum brake counterparts? If there's any delta at all... it would be so little, I'm guessing. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 16:18:42 pm » |
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We`re talking about wide five disc brakes here but stock 4 lug discs should have the have the same (Or close) track as drums.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 16:21:04 pm » |
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Oops. I just now clicked on the link that John posted. Didn't realize we were talking about wide 5 discs. My apologies.
Carry on.
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 16:42:13 pm » |
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Biggest issue I had was you're limited in terms of what kind of rim you can run (without modifying the rim, at least). I wanted to run original 2.0 914 Fuchs on my '70, but it wouldn't clear the bottom ball joint. Found out later I could have had the backs of the front rims machined so they set in further, but didn't find that out until after I sold the rims.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2009, 20:23:48 pm » |
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Hi John...I do believe I just read on the other cal-look forum that replacement wear items may not be available from CB for the wide-5 disc kits. Which I think is very odd...so you may want to investigate that further. P.S. I like that you are thinking of getting the front down.  |
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2009, 20:27:46 pm » |
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2009, 13:05:00 pm » |
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The only experience I have had with these brakes is for NON dropppd spindles - they are the same caliper/rotors/hubs etc and yes they are VERY heavy and the caliper are from FIAT  but with the non dropped spindles the kit mounts the caliper at towards the front of the car - NOT GOOD! I have mentioned this before as with an early car there are no lock stops which means the calipers hit the beam on full lock - The kit also come with Banjo type fitting for the caliper which is also not good as after a few turns of the wheel back and forth the fitting works loose again NOT GOOD! I would hope the dropped spindle kit does not come with these fittings - We changed over to CSP wide5 kit and it was ALOT better and Lighter - A superb piece of engineering Hope some of this helps John |
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