clutch judder help.....?

[Brown-nose]

I recently changed my clutch release arm and bearing setup from the old style to the ones with the integral clips after an the old style clip let go and damaged the KEP stage 1 fingers
I put a new stage 1 and daiken in there and clutch was juddering on my first trip out (300 miles)
Tried to adjust the freeplay and it still juddered,upon initial engagement
Took the engine out thinking perhaps i had not centered it all up correctly when fitting the new clutch. There are some shiny spots on the daiken (flywheel side) which looks like it has not had full contact. also if you run your finger along the flywheel surface it is not quite even with a slight high spot. no blue marks on the flywheel
Do i need to have the flywheel resurfaced ?
The stage 1 looks ok.....should i have that checked and done too ?

thanks for any advice

[DKK Ted]

Put a straight edge across the pressure plate to see if it has a tapper. Kenndy had that problem, make sure you bowen tube has the right bow, and also check to see that your clutch tube did not break off the welds in tunnel, sometimes you can hear it when you apply the pedal. Good luck! Hope this helps!

Ted

[Brown-nose]

thanks Ted. conduit is fine and clutch welds are ok
anyone know which recent Hot Vws had the flywheel/clutch articles in ? thanks

[Brown-nose]

Put a straight edge across the pressure plate to see if it has a tapper. Kenndy had that problem,

Ted

I saw this discussion on KEP on the other forum

http://www.cal-look.com/forum/index.php/topic,26935.0.html

does a warped PP mean a slipping clutch not a juddering one ? lots of talk on there of measuring breakaway torque and shimming up PP and flywheel thickness..... i just want my little stage 1 to not judder (i did this from day 1,no slip). What i came away with from reading that was that KEP clutches taper under heat cycles and once they are resurfaced then there are no more problems. But it also mentions KEP "set up the PPs to wear in" is that evenly or warping...?
i was hoping a Hot Vw reader could tell me if i should hunt down those articles...

any help out there or knowledge guys ?

thanks

[Duck]

My first stage 1 Kennedy juddered after a few hundred miles, hoped to get away with it till the end of that summer - unfortunately it shattered
Was told they are'nt very well balanced when supplied from the manufacturer and mine was'nt the first, the replacement is still a stage 1 Kennedy however balanced by a machine shop local to the supplier (VW Speedshop) and has been spot on since.
Hope this is of some help.
Mark

[Sam K]

I know someone already suggested it, but having the proper amount of bow in the bowden tube is essential for smooth clutch operation. I think the spec is 3/4 to 1 inch and my stage 2 kennedy seems to work best at 1 inch. I took a few 10mm case washers and cut a slot in the so that I could just loosen the clutch cable. pull the bowed tube out a litttle and slip them in between the tube and the transmission.