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« on: July 28, 2009, 08:34:17 am » |
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hi...
best welded and balanced fan is SCAT, BERG, BUGPACK.... OR others...
tnx....
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 10:37:54 am » |
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buy only OEM or original German welded and balanced fan. Aftermarket fans are cheesy. I bought mine from Racin Jason, CLF Forum member. Here is his ad. |
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banditina
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 10:42:38 am » |
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tnx 181... but the fan are balanced???
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 10:57:22 am » |
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yes, balanced and ready to bolt on. I only gave it slight coat of color to prevent surface rust.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 11:09:34 am » |
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 14:42:22 pm » |
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buy only OEM or original German welded and balanced fan. Aftermarket fans are cheesy. I bought mine from Racin Jason, CLF Forum member. Here is his ad. i did the same.....its the best option. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 14:51:48 pm » |
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Berg and Bugpack use OEM fans. I've read the Scat fans can expand if subjected to high rpm making it impossible to remove the fan from the shroud. There is a whole thread about this on the CLF.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 15:19:08 pm » |
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Berg and Bugpack use OEM fans. I've read the Scat fans can expand if subjected to high rpm making it impossible to remove the fan from the shroud. There is a whole thread about this on the CLF.
Scat did have a problem,they changed there supplier now to use genuine welded fans,but for me its still Bergs,but whoever you use,make sure its a proper german fan,not just OEM  cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 16:11:04 pm » |
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I use Bugpack Killer B
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 16:15:39 pm » |
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Berg and Bugpack use OEM fans. I've read the Scat fans can expand if subjected to high rpm making it impossible to remove the fan from the shroud. There is a whole thread about this on the CLF.
And then has to be cut out of the fan housing   I bought a replacement from One On One and hammered the fuck out of it with no problems  |
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Rick Sadler
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 18:00:32 pm » |
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As a side note...A serpentine pulley system allows no belt slippage and can destroy ANY welded fan when operating at high rpms. The stock v-belt design will slip eliminating this potential problem.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 18:11:03 pm » |
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As a side note...A serpentine pulley system allows no belt slippage and can destroy ANY welded fan when operating at high rpms. The stock v-belt design will slip eliminating this potential problem.
....soooo..... there is no kit containing both the welded fan AND a serpentine belt setup? WTF? |
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 19:01:30 pm » |
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Berg.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2009, 19:07:10 pm » |
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Berg
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2009, 19:20:27 pm » |
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hi guys, what, in your experience, what makes the Berg better than, say Bugpack's? Both are made from OE VW fans. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2009, 21:11:34 pm » |
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hi guys, what, in your experience, what makes the Berg better than, say Bugpack's? Both are made from OE VW fans. I can't speak for the others, but I am just biased. I prefer Berg over just about anyone else. JMO |
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2009, 22:05:53 pm » |
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hi guys, what, in your experience, what makes the Berg better than, say Bugpack's? Both are made from OE VW fans. I can't speak for the others, but I am just biased. I prefer Berg over just about anyone else. JMO Berg is about quality. However, my fan was done by Renato at Brothers (before he was at Brothers). I searched out a solid, straight German fan and had him do it. I'm sure the Berg fan was done in the same manner. If you were to see the welds on my fan, you would notice they are a good sized droplet. ALL the tabs are welded by doing one, turn the fan, do the opposing, turn over, do the second (every other), turn over, and so on. Then balanced. Now, I've never gone over 6500 with the belt on, but, no problems. Berg is good and I've heard nothing but good about Jason Eggums, but you might think about Brothers, too! |
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2009, 01:40:55 am » |
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Berg for sure. Berg uses OEM fans, they inspect every fan for welding, the ones that fail, gets shipped back. Rich, the balancer at Bergs is very good on what he does, has been doing them for years, plus crank ass. Berg's is all I use with no problems.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 02:05:08 am » |
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I talked to Tim at Bergs the Other Day about the Fans Of Course there out of them  But he Told me they use Factory VW of Brazil fans then they Tig Weld,straighten, and Balance them. they sell for $100.64 said they might get some in this week I think BugPack Killer B is the same damm thing |
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2009, 03:04:47 am » |
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They do sell quik, that has to tell you something. When you have one guy that welds them then one guy that straighten and balances them, you know there done right, and you know Berg's, they are very picky on what goes out the door.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2009, 03:34:57 am » |
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Rick is right...unfortunately any fan will explode with the serpentine system. I run the Bugpack Killer Bee (and it has seen quite a few boost pulls) on the street and remove my belt on the track, just as insurance.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2009, 04:39:05 am » |
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I have the Bugpack fan. They start with VW Brazil fans straight out of the VW box. It is"tig welded on 2 opposing points to ensure stability while allowing for flexibility at high RPM then precision balanced for smoother operation" It must work because I've never seen one come apart using a standard V groove pulley. It also appears to be painted flat black.  |
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2009, 07:22:24 am » |
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I have the Bugpack fan. They start with VW Brazil fans straight out of the VW box. It is"tig welded on 2 opposing points to ensure stability while allowing for flexibility at high RPM then precision balanced for smoother operation" It must work because I've never seen one come apart using a standard V groove pulley. It also appears to be painted flat black. i see single weld point... Berg weld all. scat weld & balanced fan is the same BERG? start to original vw BRAZIL? racing experience with scat? |
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2009, 07:26:00 am » |
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Berg
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hi guys, what, in your experience, what makes the Berg better than, say Bugpack's? Both are made from OE VW fans. I haven't tried Bugpack's, so I can't really say anything about them. The Berg fan on top of AssHull's motor is top notch, though. There are a lot of fans being peddled out there that are only re-inforced half way like the one pictures above. Is that a Bugpack "welded" fan?? |
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2009, 07:36:57 am » |
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Berg and Bugpack use OEM fans. I've read the Scat fans can expand if subjected to high rpm making it impossible to remove the fan from the shroud. There is a whole thread about this on the CLF.
And then has to be cut out of the fan housing I bought a replacement from One On One and hammered the fuck out of it with no problems but this is a SCAT??? |
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2009, 07:38:48 am » |
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alfie the monster
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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2009, 10:08:30 am » |
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Berg and Bugpack use OEM fans. I've read the Scat fans can expand if subjected to high rpm making it impossible to remove the fan from the shroud. There is a whole thread about this on the CLF.
And then has to be cut out of the fan housing I bought a replacement from One On One and hammered the fuck out of it with no problems but this is a SCAT??? Yup it is/was a Scat fan, which is why I replied to the post saying about Scat fans expanding |
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2009, 11:13:20 am » |
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 but now SCAT use original VW made in brazil?? now the scat fan don't have the "hole"...
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