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« Reply #210 on: February 03, 2010, 07:35:44 am » |
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do you always weld up the passages for the stock cooler?
because the 4"bore cuts into the galley?
i would like to keep the stock cooler (additional to one mounted into the full flow system)
yes,it has a rod inserted into the oil galley as you cut into it so you cant use the stock cooler at all cheers richie,uk is it possible to insert an aluminum pipe to keep the stock cooler? all my big cc engines were waterboxerbased, but now i have one of these cases too seems like the case in the pic has the center thrust conversion too. is it a good idea for a street engine? |
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« Reply #211 on: February 03, 2010, 15:39:54 pm » |
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« Reply #212 on: February 03, 2010, 16:02:44 pm » |
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is it possible to insert an aluminum pipe to keep the stock cooler?
all my big cc engines were waterboxerbased, but now i have one of these cases too
seems like the case in the pic has the center thrust conversion too. is it a good idea for a street engine?
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thatīs an interesting idea - a kind of internal bypass made of 10 mm ID tubing so one can keep the stock oil cooler. Is this even possible?
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« Reply #213 on: February 03, 2010, 16:05:35 pm » |
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How about putting the cooler in the stock location and plumb it externally like a normal full flow cooler... cheaper?
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« Reply #214 on: February 03, 2010, 16:13:53 pm » |
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How about putting the cooler in the stock location and plumb it externally like a normal full flow cooler... cheaper?
My thoughts are that by removing the stock cooler you get more air to the heads, and both sides see the same volume of air with no interuption,with the added mess of fittings and oil lines it would make it even less efficient surely? cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #215 on: February 03, 2010, 16:20:23 pm » |
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« Reply #216 on: February 03, 2010, 16:21:32 pm » |
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do you always weld up the passages for the stock cooler?
because the 4"bore cuts into the galley?
i would like to keep the stock cooler (additional to one mounted into the full flow system)
yes,it has a rod inserted into the oil galley as you cut into it so you cant use the stock cooler at all cheers richie,uk is it possible to insert an aluminum pipe to keep the stock cooler? all my big cc engines were waterboxerbased, but now i have one of these cases too seems like the case in the pic has the center thrust conversion too. is it a good idea for a street engine? I wouldnt think it practical,the oil galley isnt very big and when you sut the case after for the cylinder it cuts quite deep into the rod thats inserted into the oil galley cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #217 on: February 03, 2010, 16:23:54 pm » |
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some of the fin's inside the housing were designed to work together with the oilcooler, but i didn't see any hard reports that show's this myth busted  Depends on which style & brand shroud you are using too My preference is a Scat 36hp style with no doghouse but takes late wide fan cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #218 on: February 03, 2010, 22:43:33 pm » |
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i agree with richey get rid of the stock cooler. but there are other purist that would tend to disagree thats fine. we have had great sucsess doing it are way. im not saying a stock cooler couldent be mounted in the stock location. anything can be achieved by using your nooddels. i gusse what ever tickels your fancy. UD . |
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« Reply #219 on: February 03, 2010, 23:32:43 pm » |
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« Reply #220 on: February 03, 2010, 23:49:20 pm » |
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My thoughts are that by removing the stock cooler you get more air to the heads
That's what I thought to... I use a stock 30 horse housing with the biggest fan. |
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« Reply #221 on: February 04, 2010, 14:15:35 pm » |
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are we talking street or strip?
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« Reply #222 on: February 04, 2010, 15:14:33 pm » |
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are we talking street or strip?
Fanshroud= street cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #223 on: February 04, 2010, 19:41:52 pm » |
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« Reply #224 on: February 05, 2010, 17:13:24 pm » |
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fanshrowd fanbelt and cubic INCHES and a taste of fugly = SOME embarisment to SOME others R/S(VERY TRUE). UD.
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« Reply #226 on: February 05, 2010, 22:55:44 pm » |
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I am starting with my Oqy Engine,I will use Wbx Crank
I thinking use Pauter Rods with Porsche Jornals
Case is Wbx and i have 101,6cylinders
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« Reply #227 on: February 06, 2010, 03:41:19 am » |
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« Reply #228 on: February 06, 2010, 04:32:09 am » |
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hi mags. these are the rods that were in my original 3066 engine 5.880 eagels. i think there a great rod. i never had a problem. don makes some bitchen rods also i wouldent hessitate to get a set. UD .
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« Reply #229 on: February 06, 2010, 08:24:00 am » |
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I am starting with my Oqy Engine,I will use Wbx Crank
I thinking use Pauter Rods with Porsche Jornals
Case is Wbx and i have 101,6cylinders
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Pauter has new lighter rods (530 gramm) . But how would you cut a VW journal to Porsche ? Porsche is smaller !! Udo |
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« Reply #231 on: February 09, 2010, 08:48:51 am » |
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is it possible to use a 5.7 rod with a 90mm crank or do i have to get 5.88s?
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« Reply #232 on: February 09, 2010, 13:31:56 pm » |
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is it possible to use a 5.7 rod with a 90mm crank or do i have to get 5.88s?
It's possible, but you're going to have to keep a close eye on piston to crank clearances and where they are in the cylinders at BDC. Having said that, the rod/stroke ratio is getting down there ... under 1.61 : 1. However, and if the comparison can be made, these ratios and even lower are used in V8 engines all day long. For instance, a stock Chevrolet 350 has a rod/stroke ratio of just under 1.64 and a typical 383 is down to 1.52 ... that's low! What would you be if you didn't even try ... You have to try. |
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« Reply #233 on: February 10, 2010, 05:46:34 am » |
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this is how much rist pin was puling out at bdc of a 90 crank with a 5.7 tall deck case the tails on these barrels were alot shorter than our barrels im sure with the correct barrel length you can have full coveredge of the rist pin at bdc thats what i stride for any who. 90 with 5.7 heck yea. a freind of mine used to run that recipe all the time and loved it. UD .
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« Reply #234 on: February 22, 2010, 02:10:40 am » |
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« Reply #235 on: April 23, 2010, 17:04:15 pm » |
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« Reply #236 on: April 23, 2010, 23:57:21 pm » |
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What happened to 4inbore.com dispute with host....will be back soon |
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« Reply #237 on: April 24, 2010, 03:08:16 am » |
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« Reply #238 on: April 24, 2010, 16:05:39 pm » |
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hopefuly we can have some new pictures and vidios of the 4in products IN ACTION to keep the intrest ALIVE and breathing HEALTHY!!. . UD . |
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« Reply #239 on: April 25, 2010, 15:06:47 pm » |
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website back....now...need some orders....4" cases flyin out the door now... |
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