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« on: November 08, 2009, 21:21:07 pm »
I am in the process of having my new engine put together.  Not quite finalized but it will either be 82x94 or 84x94, both using a webcam 86c, IDA's on 44 x 37 heads with about 10:1CR.  So we will be in the region of 200bhp.

What clutch should I use?  Have a KEP stage II, will this be okay, should I change the standard supplied disc to something else?  What are people using?

Choices, KEP, Daiken, Copperhead???
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 21:41:34 pm »
what kind of use?
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 21:44:58 pm »
I prefer a stage 2 kennedy and a rag disk- I've been happy with the regular unsprung daiken or valeo disks, but I've been impressed with the chinese kush loc I have in the car currently- really nice and forgiving to drive, but sticks just fine- that's with a 1900+ car/driver and 217 wheel hp.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 21:48:24 pm »
Hi Mike I use a Daiken woven Clutch Disc with a KEP stage II for the Street and Change to a Berg 3 Puck when I take it to the Track,my motor is a 2332 cc 84X94,5.7 Chevy Rod,Fk46,44x37 CNC Wedge Ports reworked by Steve Tims (237 HP) Both Work Great with No Problems
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 22:01:02 pm »
I'd go for a Kennedy stage II with a Daikin
Im pushing close to 180 bhp and find my stage I slips a bit under load , gonna step up to a stage two "got one today " and try it with my old Daikin .
Hope it will hold onto it a bit better , will let you know  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 22:13:53 pm »
Quote from: Acropol on November 08, 2009, 21:41:34 pm
what kind of use?

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 22:15:11 pm »
Quote from: 49-rag on November 08, 2009, 22:01:02 pm
I'd go for a Kennedy stage II with a Daikin
Im pushing close to 180 bhp and find my stage I slips a bit under load , gonna step up to a stage two "got one today " and try it with my old Daikin .
Hope it will hold onto it a bit better , will let you know  Wink

what about the balancing of the bottom end?  Mine is been dynamically balanced as a complete unit, hence why I need to sort clutch now.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 22:19:02 pm »
After many different experiments, the KEP 2/Daikin Super is a combo that will work, no questions.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 22:24:00 pm »
Had my old clutch balanced with the flywheel & crank , probably gonna get the new kennedy stage II spun up with just the flywheel  .
Fingers crossed this shoud be fine , and will keep an eye on it , was possibly thinking bout a bottom end strip down over the winter ,
so if all's not well will get it all spun up together before I bolt it back together

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 22:52:58 pm »
go with the daikin without fear

and save your money also!
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 22:53:16 pm »
I'm very happy with my KEP Stage 1 and ACE Copperhead disc.

The hotter it gets, the better it grabs.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 07:05:26 am »
Quote from: 49-rag on November 08, 2009, 22:24:00 pm
Had my old clutch balanced with the flywheel & crank , probably gonna get the new kennedy stage II spun up with just the flywheel  .
Fingers crossed this shoud be fine , and will keep an eye on it , was possibly thinking bout a bottom end strip down over the winter ,
so if all's not well will get it all spun up together before I bolt it back together

Oh saw a empi ash tray same as your avatar at slough today .

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 07:07:24 am »
Thanks guys, saves me a few quid.  I'll try the daiken and see what happens.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 09:22:41 am »
Stage 2 with a daiken disk for us, seems to work great!
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 07:23:18 am »
Quote from: Lids on November 08, 2009, 21:21:07 pm
I am in the process of having my new engine put together.  Not quite finalized but it will either be 82x94 or 84x94, both using a webcam 86c, IDA's on 44 x 37 heads with about 10:1CR.  So we will be in the region of 200bhp.

What clutch should I use?  Have a KEP stage II, will this be okay, should I change the standard supplied disc to something else?  What are people using?

Choices, KEP, Daiken, Copperhead???

I have a 2332 cc, Web 86C, IDA's, 44 x 37, 10.5 CR and 180 WHP (~200 BHP).  KEP Stage 2 and Berg dual-friction disc (six years with this disc in total).  Smooth on the street and grips well on the track...best ET 12.9 seconds at 104 MPH so far...
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2010, 18:04:50 pm »
well I guess I wont be trying my new kennedy with my old daikin

6500 launch's  plus 5 year old clutch's dont mix  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2010, 18:28:04 pm »
Just glue it back together and you will have 5 more years out of it. Grin
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2010, 00:32:31 am »
ACE Copperhead for me
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2010, 06:28:02 am »
Lids -- -- I would recommend balancing without the clutch ------- just in case you have to replace them down the road or you'll have to disassemble and re balance -- most disc and PP come prebalanced
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