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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2010, 20:19:08 pm » |
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"Yes", I would be interested in a 5 speed for my car. I think a 5 or 6 speed gearbox would be sweet, but I'd like to have (Ideally) a cool shifter that allowed the use of a reverse lockout feature, a 5th/6th lock out feature (for racing), and also a feature to lock the car in reverse (like the factory had for convertables). And with all those features, it couldn't possibly be cheap (or at least affordable) considering the needed Research and development alone.
If someone provided a modification (of some sort) that would allow the use of a standard (existing) 4 speed shifter (Hurst, berg, flat 4, CSP, etc), offered a "kit" for "do-it-yourself" guys that came with simple instructions, all the needed parts, and (maybe?) even offered assembly services or "pre-built" units that would bolt up with ease ,there would be a large market for this sort of thing. But in reality, there is probably a reason that only the "cool guys" can have their cake and eat it too: they spent the extra money and got 5th gear!
It's really too bad that there isn't a factory built 5 or 6 speed that is relatively inexpensive, easy to get parts for, and fairly straight forward to install. The closest thing we have to work with is a Porsche transaxle. Certainly not a cheap or easy modification for most.
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 21:07:32 pm » |
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I vote "yes" too, with a correct price, and cool shifters.
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 23:25:17 pm » |
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I vote "yes" too, with a correct price, and cool shifters.
The only thing that deters me from the 901 box is the need to use a Porsche shifter. But I love that dogleg first gear  |
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 23:31:40 pm » |
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The best would be to use Berg shifters.
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2010, 00:51:14 am » |
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Or a Hurst...What about a stock shifter for that "sleeper" look? I always though that it would be cool to have a more "positive" feeling shifter with the reverse lockout and short throw that appeared stock looking. The stock unit with a "short throw kit" just doesn't cut it for me, plus it wouldn't work for a 5 speed application. Hurst would be my first choice though. Andy |
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2010, 01:41:05 am » |
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I vote "yes" too, with a correct price, and cool shifters.
The only thing that deters me from the 901 box is the need to use a Porsche shifter. But I love that dogleg first gear The only thing that deters me from the 901 box is.....the weak first gear. Other than that I love smooth "hot knife thru butter" feel. Especially with "airport gears" or the vowel gearset (AEIOU). |
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2010, 10:33:02 am » |
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I would definitely be interested too, all depends on what is "affordable"...  My idea would be to run close 1-2-3 gears and rearrange the two other ones. If I'm not mistaken Hewland from the UK used Beetle gearboxes? What's available from them? |
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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2010, 14:21:26 pm » |
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I would definitely be interested too, all depends on what is "affordable"... My idea would be to run close 1-2-3 gears and rearrange the two other ones. If I'm not mistaken Hewland from the UK used Beetle gearboxes? What's available from them? VERY expensive and noisy! |
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« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2010, 14:55:56 pm » |
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I´f I´m not mistaken, Hewland competition gearboxes use straight cut gears for all gears?
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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2010, 17:47:03 pm » |
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I'd be interested if it could be done at a reasonable cost.
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2010, 17:56:15 pm » |
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I'd be interested if it could be done at a reasonable cost.
The Key word that keep popping up is 'affordable'........... |
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2010, 17:58:33 pm » |
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I'd be interested if it could be done at a reasonable cost.
The Key word that keep popping up is 'affordable'........... Well the Berg 5 is the benchmark. It's a nice unit but like all of the Berg stuff priced a little on the high side. |
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2010, 19:24:12 pm » |
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With today's 80mph traffic flow, every time I hit the Freeway, I'm looking for that 5th gear!
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2010, 20:12:22 pm » |
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Just FYI..... The new Rhino transaxle cases now coming out of Brazil are aluminum....
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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2010, 02:02:45 am » |
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Wow, the rumor mill in full swing lately.....I would be in for a few...Jim
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« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2010, 03:42:29 am » |
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I'd be interested if it could be done at a reasonable cost.
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« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2010, 05:44:01 am » |
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I'd be interested if it could be done at a reasonable cost.
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« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2010, 07:53:00 am » |
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As I said higher up this thread, everybody has their own thoughts on what is and isn't affordable. Some will think $2000 is cheap, while others will have needed the smelling salts at $1000.......  |
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2010, 08:37:26 am » |
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I would love one! The only reason I don't have one yet is the cost involved. Someday...
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2010, 09:38:28 am » |
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I always like 5 speed for todays traffic, also good for weekend racing. I made my own 5 speed shifter and 5 speed shift knob. I still have some knob, if any body need them.
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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2010, 09:49:07 am » |
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Yes for the interest.
And yes for a slight overdrive.
BUT. Most type 1 engines would struggle with a 3,88 R/P and 0,82 5th. unless they use small dia. tyres. Then there is the heat issue. Anything over what´s equivallent to 3,88 R/P and 0,89 final gear w. stock dia tyres, and the engine begins to have heat issues at normal street driving (50 mph) , but they live great at 70 mph. Type 4´s are another game. They can handle more gearing.
But it would be a great way to exploit the highest reasonable ratio for the vehichle, without getting high rpm drops when shifting.
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2010, 12:38:31 pm » |
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I always like 5 speed for todays traffic, also good for weekend racing. I made my own 5 speed shifter and 5 speed shift knob. I still have some knob, if any body need them.
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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2010, 12:45:45 pm » |
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quite right, torben! it seems quite a few people are looking forward to a looong freeway 5th, but you can't go any longer than 4.12 and .82 or 3.88 and .89 with our 26" tractor tyres out back. the trick you'll have some fun gears for them twisty backroads or traffic light acceleration and retain that .89 5th so that the 1.04 is now 4th. but any longer than 3.88 and 0.89 and you'll be running less than 3,000rpm for a long period time on the motorway, which would create the need for an additional fan in the engine compartment or something alike. a 356 generator pulley could be an option but then spinning up to 7,000 or so sounds less attractive if you'd imagine how many rpm your fan is making. but yes! an affordable 5 speed which allows us to play around with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear ratios sounds pretty damn cool!!  |
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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2010, 14:27:30 pm » |
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For street use (no slick), I think 2000USD is very good price.
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« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2010, 14:41:29 pm » |
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How about an affordable LSD to go with it?
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« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2010, 16:01:47 pm » |
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There are complains about the Berg-5 being pricy, but remember that for the most part, you are using used parts to make the complete assembly. If a (new) aftermarket transaxle comes into the market, it would be 100% new parts - stronger yet, and surely be more expensive.
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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2010, 16:33:17 pm » |
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I like my Berg 5. I find it hard to believe that a reliable 5 speed can enter the market costing much less in today's world. Like Louis said a quality LSD would be nice for an affordable price. I can't afford a Quaife...
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« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2010, 18:12:15 pm » |
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I find it hard to believe that a reliable 5 speed can enter the market costing much less in today's world.
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