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« on: November 13, 2010, 18:18:10 pm »

Well better start a new topic with my car, a few updates are being made this winter.

Like someone knew I broke my old engien and insted of rebuilding it I sold it to Rasmus my Team buddy so he is getting a 300 hp engine in his Bulldog next seson.

So now I have orderes a new engine from CB performance, had a very good and long talk with Pat and we came out with this for next seson. (see engine spec)

So im very excited to start up next seson and see what she can do.

88X101.6 RACE ENGINE

Pauter Super Pro Block, dry sump oiling, 6 stud with roller cam, .250 droped cam, Chrysler main brgs, 101.6 bore J&E 101.6mm forged pistons with lateral gas ports, .160 wall pins, total seal rings,
Pauter billet 101.6mm cylinders
Scat 88mm flanged crank, chrysler mains, 2" rod journals, Ion nitriding
Scat flanged flywheel modified for J&G clutch
Race waer 10mm head studs with 6 stud
Pauter billet straight cut cam gears
Pauter super pro push rod tubes
Strip Dominator cylinder heads, 53x40 titanium valves, roller springs, titanium retainers, 10 degree locks, baryllium seats, CNC ported, cut for 13-1 compression
Terminator carbs, polished with polished stacks, 50mm venturies
J&G clutch
Black magic clutch disc
CNC Ported Strip Dominator Manifolds
Race Pulley Blue 5 1/4
Custom made 2"-2-1/8" over the top exhaust, set up for Burns Muffler.
Pauter Roller camshaft, 278@.050 duration x .430 lift @cam, 108 degree lobe centers
Manton 7/16to 3/8 double tapered chromoly push rods
Magnaspark™ Digital Distributor
Magnaspark II™ 8.2mm Wires
Pauter steel billet connecting rods, lightened, .866 pin, 2" journal, 5.850 overall length
Pauter Dry Sump 2 stage oil pump
Pauter Super pro 1.6 ratio rocker kit

Christian

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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 23:02:42 pm »

Wow! That sounds awesome Christian! You will not be disappointed with a Pat Downs' built motor!

You not going EFi then?

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 08:36:59 am »

No ill start with Geers Terminators and take it from there, I need a littel more time to get into the EFI.

So maybe next seson, if not other projekts have turned up.

There is alot of reading and adjusting with the EFI until it fit the engine, and that time I don't have at the moment, so ill just go and have some fun next summer

But like we talked about it defently better and much more pricese.

Christian
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 15:48:27 pm »

Can´t wait to see the new engine racing Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 09:36:03 am »

Any estimates on horsepower? I mean, maybe CB Performance has built similar engines in the past and could estimate the power output? Would you like to PM me the price range of the engine (if you don't want to disclose it here)?

Thanks,
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 09:48:29 am »

Any estimates on horsepower? I mean, maybe CB Performance has built similar engines in the past and could estimate the power output? Would you like to PM me the price range of the engine (if you don't want to disclose it here)?

Thanks,
Valtteri

Look at Pat`s car and you will get a estimate of how many HP the engine should be able to produce on a good day - in America.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 18:01:19 pm »

"in America"... Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 07:10:00 am »

Hi
I think Pat's car is a little more lightweight ...
Good luck with the engine  Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 13:54:24 pm »

It schould be 300++  Grin

My car and Pat's is the same weight, so hopeforly I can get some good info on setup etc.

Christian
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 10:18:46 am »

Got pic of the first parts..

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 10:19:49 am »

More.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 11:02:50 am »

Nice parts  Cool

In theory..2,854x9200x12,5/910=360 Hp ?!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 11:22:17 am »

Nice parts  Cool

In theory..2,854x9200x12,5/910=360 Hp ?!  Grin

Good one! It will depend on how much the heads will flow.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 11:26:26 am »

Thats mind blowing good luck.

I remember seeing your Bug when it made its debut I took loads of photos of it, then lost my camera Sad. It still looks great in the photos after all those years Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 12:26:30 pm »

They schould be over 360cmf at 25"

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 14:21:32 pm »

They schould be over 360cmf at 25"

Christian

Then there is hope if it was not achieved at insanly high lifts. With or without manifold?
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2010, 12:56:48 pm »

Nice Christmas for you this year christian   Grin
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2010, 01:42:06 am »

They schould be over 360cmf at 25"

Christian

Then there is hope if it was not achieved at insanly high lifts. With or without manifold?
His heads flow 365cfm @25" through the manifold at .800 lift. At .600 they flow 325cfm.
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2010, 08:53:44 am »

They schould be over 360cmf at 25"

Christian

Then there is hope if it was not achieved at insanly high lifts. With or without manifold?
His heads flow 365cfm @25" through the manifold at .800 lift. At .600 they flow 325cfm.

Thanks, .800 lift is 20mm. Can I ask what CR ratio and fuel? 
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2010, 14:24:06 pm »

It says 13:1 in the text above....Lift at valve will be: 0,43x1,6=0,69 inch or ?
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2010, 15:44:01 pm »

Beetlebug, You can ask Christian anything about his engine, I'm not at liberty to talk about it unless he wants me to. I only clarified the flow of his heads because I saw that he posted a flow number on them.
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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2010, 16:22:06 pm »

That will be a nice engine , congrats !!!
Do those rods clear the cam with the bolt head at the bottom?

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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2010, 16:51:45 pm »

Cool parts ! Will be a great engine.
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2010, 17:15:37 pm »

You can talk free Pat no problem, Im only racing to have fun so I have no secrets.

It's only if you have some you don't want out.

Christian
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« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2010, 20:37:16 pm »

Do those rods clear the cam with the bolt head at the bottom?

Udo

Dropped cam in the Pauter case?
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2010, 10:01:24 am »

It's just a shame that I did'ent order it a bit sooner so it chould be under the Chrismas tree, it whould have been a nice present to unrape.

Im looking forword to go out next seson to have fun.

Christan
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2010, 10:17:05 am »

And this is how my gearbox is right now.. changing the 4th gear so it will fit the new engine, and im refreshing the Pro-ring as well.

And the car is having a new 5" narrowed beam insted of the 4" beam that where on it, because after changing the brakes to the spindel mounted the wheel bse became to wide and I had problems with turning without damaging the flipfront, so its now down to its org wheelbase.

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2010, 17:40:18 pm »

That will be a nice engine , congrats !!!
Do those rods clear the cam with the bolt head at the bottom?

Udo
Udo, When using a Pauter block, you want the rod bolts on the cap end of the rod. This way, you can R&R the rod bearings without tearing the engine down. All you do is remove the top plate on the block to gain access to the rods. Also, the cam is .250 dropped in a Pauter Block.
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2010, 18:19:13 pm »

Pat

That sounds good . Smiley
the cam is .250 dropped   - that's a lot

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2010, 17:00:22 pm »

And this is how my gearbox is right now.. changing the 4th gear so it will fit the new engine, and im refreshing the Pro-ring as well.

And the car is having a new 5" narrowed beam insted of the 4" beam that where on it, because after changing the brakes to the spindel mounted the wheel bse became to wide and I had problems with turning without damaging the flipfront, so its now down to its org wheelbase.

Christian

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Christian, It looks like those sliders are getting pretty worn. You might consider cleaning them up or replacing them before the gearbox goes back together.
Pat
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